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klemmons@airmail.net

Sat, Nov 10, 2001 1:17 PM

With all my attention to preventative maintenance, a simple item slipped
my list, and of course did not get done. I left a set of batteries in my
ITT Generation III night scope until they corroded, messing up the unit.
Cost me about $200 to get it fixed, because I didn't think to change out
the $2 batteries as preventative maintenance. Take heed!

Now, the interesting part. When I got the unit back from the factory,
it's now sporting a new sticker that says "WARNING. Taking or sending
this unit out of the U.S. without an export license is prohibited by
law. See Owner's Manual." What's up with THAT? Since I purchased this
unit 5 or so years ago, there's nothing in the manual about this. Wonder
what is involved in getting an export license? Probably just more $$$$
<sigh>.

--

Keith
"Life is not tried, it is merely survived,
if you're standing outside the fire." - Garth Brooks

With all my attention to preventative maintenance, a simple item slipped my list, and of course did not get done. I left a set of batteries in my ITT Generation III night scope until they corroded, messing up the unit. Cost me about $200 to get it fixed, because I didn't think to change out the $2 batteries as preventative maintenance. Take heed! Now, the interesting part. When I got the unit back from the factory, it's now sporting a new sticker that says "WARNING. Taking or sending this unit out of the U.S. without an export license is prohibited by law. See Owner's Manual." What's up with THAT? Since I purchased this unit 5 or so years ago, there's nothing in the manual about this. Wonder what is involved in getting an export license? Probably just more $$$$ <sigh>. -- __________________ Keith "Life is not tried, it is merely survived, if you're standing outside the fire." - Garth Brooks

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zeekstah@ktc.com

Sat, Nov 10, 2001 2:27 PM

Now, the interesting part. When I got the unit back from the factory,
it's now sporting a new sticker that says "WARNING. Taking or sending
this unit out of the U.S. without an export license is prohibited by
law. See Owner's Manual." What's up with THAT? Since I purchased this
unit 5 or so years ago, there's nothing in the manual about this. Wonder
what is involved in getting an export license? Probably just more $$$$
<sigh>.

Keith

I have owned a Leica M5 camera and 4 lenses for years. I was advised when I
bought it to always have the sales receipt with me when I took it out of the
country. I've never had a problem; such personal property would not be
covered by the above, IMO.

Zeke Anderson
Kerrville, TX

> > Now, the interesting part. When I got the unit back from the factory, > it's now sporting a new sticker that says "WARNING. Taking or sending > this unit out of the U.S. without an export license is prohibited by > law. See Owner's Manual." What's up with THAT? Since I purchased this > unit 5 or so years ago, there's nothing in the manual about this. Wonder > what is involved in getting an export license? Probably just more $$$$ > <sigh>. > -- > __________________ > Keith I have owned a Leica M5 camera and 4 lenses for years. I was advised when I bought it to always have the sales receipt with me when I took it out of the country. I've never had a problem; such personal property would not be covered by the above, IMO. Zeke Anderson Kerrville, TX

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cculotta@iamerica.net

Sat, Nov 10, 2001 2:34 PM

Zeke,
My experience with your situation with the camera is that it is an imported
item and you may need to prove to customs , on your return to the US, that you
did not pur it on that trip out of the country.
CCC

Zeke Anderson wrote:

I have owned a Leica M5 camera and 4 lenses for years. I was advised when I
bought it to always have the sales receipt with me when I took it out of the
country.

Zeke Anderson
Kerrville, TX

--
Charles and Pat Culotta
Patterson, La.
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/charlesculotta/

Zeke, My experience with your situation with the camera is that it is an imported item and you may need to prove to customs , on your return to the US, that you did not pur it on that trip out of the country. CCC Zeke Anderson wrote: > > I have owned a Leica M5 camera and 4 lenses for years. I was advised when I > bought it to always have the sales receipt with me when I took it out of the > country. > Zeke Anderson > Kerrville, TX -- Charles and Pat Culotta Patterson, La. Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/charlesculotta/

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scaramouche@tvo.org

Sat, Nov 10, 2001 2:39 PM

zeekstah@ktc.com writes:

I have owned a Leica M5 camera and 4 lenses for years. I was advised
when I
bought it to always have the sales receipt with me when I took it
out of the
country.

A few years ago I was advised by a Canadian customs officer to get a
form from Canada Customs for any expensive piece of personal property
like cameras etc before leaving the country. This form (green)
registers serial numbers, establishes ownership and avoids hassles on
re-entry.
I am Canadian and the procedure applies to Canada but I should
think that something similar exists in the USA for US citizens.
It is particular useful for old fogies like myself who lost or forget
where they put their sales receipt <grin>
George of Scaramouche1, Lake Ontario.

zeekstah@ktc.com writes: >I have owned a Leica M5 camera and 4 lenses for years. I was advised >when I >bought it to always have the sales receipt with me when I took it >out of the >country. A few years ago I was advised by a Canadian customs officer to get a form from Canada Customs for any expensive piece of personal property like cameras etc before leaving the country. This form (green) registers serial numbers, establishes ownership and avoids hassles on re-entry. I am Canadian and the procedure applies to Canada but I should think that something similar exists in the USA for US citizens. It is particular useful for old fogies like myself who lost or forget where they put their sales receipt <grin> George of Scaramouche1, Lake Ontario.

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samakijoe@mediaone.net

Sat, Nov 10, 2001 2:49 PM

At 07:17 AM 11/10/2001 -0600, Keith wrote:

Now, the interesting part. When I got the unit back from the factory,
it's now sporting a new sticker that says "WARNING. Taking or sending
this unit out of the U.S. without an export license is prohibited by
law. See Owner's Manual." What's up with THAT? Since I purchased this
unit 5 or so years ago, there's nothing in the manual about this. Wonder
what is involved in getting an export license? Probably just more $$$$

Keith

I would guess this has to do with the new stricter laws concerning the
export of "High tech" items. Uncle Sam has finally figured out that we
can't just keep giving it away...jd
Joe DellaFera / Margaret Murray
36' Prairie DC "Prairie Star"
Pompano Beach, Fl.

At 07:17 AM 11/10/2001 -0600, Keith wrote: >Now, the interesting part. When I got the unit back from the factory, >it's now sporting a new sticker that says "WARNING. Taking or sending >this unit out of the U.S. without an export license is prohibited by >law. See Owner's Manual." What's up with THAT? Since I purchased this >unit 5 or so years ago, there's nothing in the manual about this. Wonder >what is involved in getting an export license? Probably just more $$$$ >Keith I would guess this has to do with the new stricter laws concerning the export of "High tech" items. Uncle Sam has finally figured out that we can't just keep giving it away...jd Joe DellaFera / Margaret Murray 36' Prairie DC "Prairie Star" Pompano Beach, Fl.

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daveg@cencon.org

Sat, Nov 10, 2001 3:01 PM

My experience with your situation with the camera is that it is an imported
item and you may need to prove to customs , on your return to the US, that you
did not pur it on that trip out of the country.
CCC

Zeke Anderson wrote:

I have owned a Leica M5 camera and 4 lenses for years. I was advised when I
bought it to always have the sales receipt with me when I took it out of the
country.

If you take equipment with a serial number to U.S. Customs within the
U.S. they will 'register' it for you. You will get a form from them
identifying the equipment and certifying that it has already entered the
country.

Note that the item must be identifiable by serial number.

I haven't done this in a number of years, but I assume the system is
still in place.

--

Dave Goodman
M/V Dragonfly
Sarasota, FL

> My experience with your situation with the camera is that it is an imported > item and you may need to prove to customs , on your return to the US, that you > did not pur it on that trip out of the country. > CCC > > Zeke Anderson wrote: > > > > > I have owned a Leica M5 camera and 4 lenses for years. I was advised when I > > bought it to always have the sales receipt with me when I took it out of the > > country. If you take equipment with a serial number to U.S. Customs within the U.S. they will 'register' it for you. You will get a form from them identifying the equipment and certifying that it has already entered the country. Note that the item must be identifiable by serial number. I haven't done this in a number of years, but I assume the system is still in place. -- Dave Goodman M/V Dragonfly Sarasota, FL

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elnav@uniserve.com

Sat, Nov 10, 2001 4:13 PM

At 07:17 AM 11/10/2001 -0600, Keith wrote:

When I got the unit back from the factory,
it's now sporting a new sticker that says "WARNING. Taking or sending
this unit out of the U.S. without an export license is prohibited by
law. See Owner's Manual." What's up with THAT?

REPLY

Welcome to Post 9/11!!!

This has always been a controversial issue.
Business wants unfettered access to a global market selling whatever to
whomever. Until it bites back!
Arms and thigh echnology has always been controversial commerce.

US troops in WW2 complained about getting hit will rusty chevys in the
form of shrapnel from Japanese bombs etc.
This in reference to the fact that the US was exporting thousands of tons
of scrap metal to Japan before the war.
Japan had very little iron resources inside its own borders. This was in
fact the major impetus for their expansion war.
Joe's comment about high tech is right on target.

Now US troops are disadvantaged by hostiles using US based technology
to pinpoint their positions.
Night scopes definitely fit in the catagory of technology undesirable in
enemy hands.

You are likely to see more and more equipment being designated as such
in the immediate future.
This would include communications, computers, navigation and some
automation, not to mention bio tech.

Cheers

Arild

At 07:17 AM 11/10/2001 -0600, Keith wrote: >When I got the unit back from the factory, >it's now sporting a new sticker that says "WARNING. Taking or sending >this unit out of the U.S. without an export license is prohibited by >law. See Owner's Manual." What's up with THAT? REPLY Welcome to Post 9/11!!! This has always been a controversial issue. Business wants unfettered access to a global market selling whatever to whomever. Until it bites back! Arms and thigh echnology has always been controversial commerce. US troops in WW2 complained about getting hit will rusty chevys in the form of shrapnel from Japanese bombs etc. This in reference to the fact that the US was exporting thousands of tons of scrap metal to Japan before the war. Japan had very little iron resources inside its own borders. This was in fact the major impetus for their expansion war. Joe's comment about high tech is right on target. Now US troops are disadvantaged by hostiles using US based technology to pinpoint their positions. Night scopes definitely fit in the catagory of technology undesirable in enemy hands. You are likely to see more and more equipment being designated as such in the immediate future. This would include communications, computers, navigation and some automation, not to mention bio tech. Cheers Arild

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jgaquin@ici.net

Sat, Nov 10, 2001 10:17 PM

From: "Arild Jensen" elnav@uniserve.com

US troops in WW2 complained about getting hit will rusty chevys in the
form of shrapnel from Japanese bombs etc.

"...a nipponized bit of the old eighth avenue el..." Isn't that the way it
went?

JG

From: "Arild Jensen" <elnav@uniserve.com> > > US troops in WW2 complained about getting hit will rusty chevys in the > form of shrapnel from Japanese bombs etc. "...a nipponized bit of the old eighth avenue el..." Isn't that the way it went? JG

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