Sounds like the GPS receiver is hosed. I think there are two different receivers used in the 58503a, unfortunately I'm away from my lab, otherwise I could check mine. It is a standard part, and may be available on the surplus market.

Before replacing, I'd check the usual suspects, power supply health (look for failed electrolytics) and re-seat the gps board to board connector.

Happy to measure things on my 58503a.

Andy ◉ Bardagjy.com ◉ +1-404-964-1641

On 1 January 2015 at 17:03, Andy Bardagjy andybardagjy@gmail.com wrote:

The fact it originally failed with errors indicting the GPS receiver
was not ok (nt Power- OK, OCXO- OK, EFC-OK GPS RCV-err. I, but later
he can't communicate with the 58503A over RS-232, to me indicates the
problem is not likely to be the just (if at all) the GPS receiver.

As you say, power supply is a possible problem.

I have a 58503A here that has a problem. Sometimes when power is first
applied, the "Alarm" light stays on, and the log show power supply
voltage errors. Yesterday I must have switched the thing on/off about
30 times before I managed to get the "Alarm" light to stay on. At the
time I had a handheld DVM connected to the +15 V rail with the "peak
hold" mode enabled. At least according to the handheld DVM, the +15 V
rail was normal, so either the transient is too short for my handheld
DVM to see, or the 85050A is reporting data voltage data incorrectly.
Both are fairly like I suspect.

I noticed a very slight bulge at the top of on a 100 uF, 400 V
capacitor on the switch mode power supply.  For various reasons, I am
not going to change that cap now, but obviously a failed cap could
cause this sort of problem.

Dave

Hi,

The past week I had to replace more than 30 capacitors in various of my
home electronics, some were bulged and others not so.
There were 7 in a computer motherboard, 10 in other, 8 in a TV set power
supply, 2 in an external USB disk power supply and the rest in other
things, I know the grand total because I kept it together to test a
cheap EMS meter against a LCR bridge.
In my experience, all bulged capacitors are very ill, high ESR and very
low capacitance, causing a lot of symptoms to appear (many of them
intermittent).  And when a capacitor bulges normally some or all of its
neighbors are bad also, even without any external sign. I check them
with a bridge and this is confirmed most of the times, so I suggest to
replace the bulged capacitor and when you are there check or replace the
others, they will bulge or burst in short time, high ripple currents and
heat makes electrolytics the less reliable electronic components today.

Best regards,
Ignacio EB4APL

On 02/01/2015 a las 14:34, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) wrote:

Hi

So is any of the rest of the family still speaking to you? :) That’s a lot of work. Very nicely done and documented !!

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Phase noise or ADEV would be well worth checking out. I see no reason why they would be a problem, but one never knows until the test is run.

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I would suggest some resistance to ground on the outputs of the distribution amp. Without any R, you can get into ESD issues when you connect a cable. Is it a big deal - not really.

Bob

Hi Gerhard,

Wow - what a nice piece of work.  If you or anyone in our group is going to make boards or completed units I would be interested in two of them.  I do not have the expertise to build them.

73,

Bill, WA2DVU
Cape May, NJ

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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Frequency doubler 5/10 and distribution amplifier for Lucent KS-24361

Hi

So is any of the rest of the family still speaking to you? :) That’s a lot of work. Very nicely done and documented !!

————

Phase noise or ADEV would be well worth checking out. I see no reason why they would be a problem, but one never knows until the test is run.

—————

I would suggest some resistance to ground on the outputs of the distribution amp. Without any R, you can get into ESD issues when you connect a cable. Is it a big deal - not really.

Bob

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Good job on the doubler/distribution amp, Gerhard!
Which PCB design software did you use to make the PC board?  Could you share
the files for it?

Dave M

Gerhard Hoffmann wrote:

Am 05.01.2015 um 02:41 schrieb Dave M:

Thanks,
I use the Altium Designer here. The files are available. 1:1 .pdfs of
the layout are
already in the hands of interested people. I don't mind if someone makes
boards
or has them made.

regards, Gerhard

Am 03.01.2015 um 02:43 schrieb Gerhard Hoffmann:

I have updated the text with a phase noise measurement and some
clarifications.

regards, Gerhard