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Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 63, Issue 52

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Florian Teply
Sun, Oct 11, 2009 3:40 PM

Am Sunday 11 October 2009 16:57:50 schrieb Arnold Tibus:

On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:27:32 +0200, Arnold Tibus wrote:

When used these numbers in calculations we anyway have to convert
these ppm, ppb, ppt etc. to scientific numbers using exponents
There are too often discussions and misunderstandings
because the ignored case sensitivity of units (b for bit, B for Byte,
m for milli, M for Mega...).

Btw. I remember to all these strange mmH, µµF etc. when I collected
rare inductors, capacitors revovered from vintage MIL- equipment in
the end fifties/ early sixties of last century ... :-)

I believe that Time Nuts prefer precise and clear expressions!? ;-)
What do you think about it?

waiting eagerly for  the new issue of LH,
regards

Arnold

I wanted to know where the difference of Million and Milliard and
Billion is coming from. I found a good summary here
http://eyeful-tower.com/muse/billion.htm

Both (systems) were invented by the French, but the British and
Americans do use differnt systems ... isn't it dangerous?

Depts should be shiftet from UK to US -
and the deposits vice versa - wouldn't it be a good deal? ;-)

Arnold

Just to comment on exactly that article you posted: even if the british would
switch to the short scale (skipping milliard and billiard and so on), there's
still the rest of europe using the long scale. From that point of view, so
far only North America is on the odd side. Anyways, i'd strongly support a
scientific approach using exponents.

Just my 2Cents,
Florian

Am Sunday 11 October 2009 16:57:50 schrieb Arnold Tibus: > On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:27:32 +0200, Arnold Tibus wrote: > > > >When used these numbers in calculations we anyway have to convert > >these ppm, ppb, ppt etc. to scientific numbers using exponents > >There are too often discussions and misunderstandings > >because the ignored case sensitivity of units (b for bit, B for Byte, > >m for milli, M for Mega...). > > > >Btw. I remember to all these strange mmH, µµF etc. when I collected > >rare inductors, capacitors revovered from vintage MIL- equipment in > >the end fifties/ early sixties of last century ... :-) > > > >I believe that Time Nuts prefer precise and clear expressions!? ;-) > >What do you think about it? > > > >waiting eagerly for the new issue of LH, > >regards > > > >Arnold > > I wanted to know where the difference of Million and Milliard and > Billion is coming from. I found a good summary here > http://eyeful-tower.com/muse/billion.htm > > Both (systems) were invented by the French, but the British and > Americans do use differnt systems ... isn't it dangerous? > > Depts should be shiftet from UK to US - > and the deposits vice versa - wouldn't it be a good deal? ;-) > > Arnold Just to comment on exactly that article you posted: even if the british would switch to the short scale (skipping milliard and billiard and so on), there's still the rest of europe using the long scale. From that point of view, so far only North America is on the odd side. Anyways, i'd strongly support a scientific approach using exponents. Just my 2Cents, Florian
FL
Francesco Ledda
Sun, Oct 11, 2009 3:48 PM

In the US, we use both systems. During engineering school, we mainly used
the exponent system as done in Europe; we also used the US system for
historycal and practical reasons.

Some people here in the US feel more confortable one system and others with
the other. My opinion is that as long as they are used correcly, both
systems are just fine.

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From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com]On
Behalf Of Florian Teply
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 10:40 AM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 63, Issue 52

Am Sunday 11 October 2009 16:57:50 schrieb Arnold Tibus:

On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:27:32 +0200, Arnold Tibus wrote:

When used these numbers in calculations we anyway have to convert
these ppm, ppb, ppt etc. to scientific numbers using exponents
There are too often discussions and misunderstandings
because the ignored case sensitivity of units (b for bit, B for Byte,
m for milli, M for Mega...).

Btw. I remember to all these strange mmH, µµF etc. when I collected
rare inductors, capacitors revovered from vintage MIL- equipment in
the end fifties/ early sixties of last century ... :-)

I believe that Time Nuts prefer precise and clear expressions!? ;-)
What do you think about it?

waiting eagerly for  the new issue of LH,
regards

Arnold

I wanted to know where the difference of Million and Milliard and
Billion is coming from. I found a good summary here
http://eyeful-tower.com/muse/billion.htm

Both (systems) were invented by the French, but the British and
Americans do use differnt systems ... isn't it dangerous?

Depts should be shiftet from UK to US -
and the deposits vice versa - wouldn't it be a good deal? ;-)

Arnold

Just to comment on exactly that article you posted: even if the british
would
switch to the short scale (skipping milliard and billiard and so on),
there's
still the rest of europe using the long scale. From that point of view, so
far only North America is on the odd side. Anyways, i'd strongly support a
scientific approach using exponents.

Just my 2Cents,
Florian


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In the US, we use both systems. During engineering school, we mainly used the exponent system as done in Europe; we also used the US system for historycal and practical reasons. Some people here in the US feel more confortable one system and others with the other. My opinion is that as long as they are used correcly, both systems are just fine. -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com]On Behalf Of Florian Teply Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 10:40 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 63, Issue 52 Am Sunday 11 October 2009 16:57:50 schrieb Arnold Tibus: > On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:27:32 +0200, Arnold Tibus wrote: > > > >When used these numbers in calculations we anyway have to convert > >these ppm, ppb, ppt etc. to scientific numbers using exponents > >There are too often discussions and misunderstandings > >because the ignored case sensitivity of units (b for bit, B for Byte, > >m for milli, M for Mega...). > > > >Btw. I remember to all these strange mmH, µµF etc. when I collected > >rare inductors, capacitors revovered from vintage MIL- equipment in > >the end fifties/ early sixties of last century ... :-) > > > >I believe that Time Nuts prefer precise and clear expressions!? ;-) > >What do you think about it? > > > >waiting eagerly for the new issue of LH, > >regards > > > >Arnold > > I wanted to know where the difference of Million and Milliard and > Billion is coming from. I found a good summary here > http://eyeful-tower.com/muse/billion.htm > > Both (systems) were invented by the French, but the British and > Americans do use differnt systems ... isn't it dangerous? > > Depts should be shiftet from UK to US - > and the deposits vice versa - wouldn't it be a good deal? ;-) > > Arnold Just to comment on exactly that article you posted: even if the british would switch to the short scale (skipping milliard and billiard and so on), there's still the rest of europe using the long scale. From that point of view, so far only North America is on the odd side. Anyways, i'd strongly support a scientific approach using exponents. Just my 2Cents, Florian _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.13450 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.13450 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/