I vote for a return to the original "easy chair" marine toilet. Back in the day, the 'poorer' ships had a plank with a hole in it extended overboard, called the "easy" chair. So one would sit on it and 'ease' themselves. No clogs, jokers, or other problems! And yes, that is the derivation of the the easy chair in front of the tv. The odd thing is that the 'richer' ships had many chamber pots that crew had to carry to empty overboard. In doing this, dysentary was apparently much more severe (because of extra handling) than on the 'poorer' ships that had a direct poopy conduit to the sea. Jerry Midnight Watch Tollycraft 26