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Raj

Tue, Oct 2, 2012 4:12 AM

Just saw this mentioned in Circuit Cellar, just wonding if it really
exists, how much they are asking, and if anyone has played with one
yet?

http://www.rfx.co.uk/pdfs/GPS_OCXO_1300_10_module.pdf

It is small enough to incorporate in the external antenna !

Raj

>Just saw this mentioned in Circuit Cellar, just wonding if it really >exists, how much they are asking, and if anyone has played with one >yet? > >http://www.rfx.co.uk/pdfs/GPS_OCXO_1300_10_module.pdf It is small enough to incorporate in the external antenna ! Raj

BC

Bob Camp

Tue, Oct 2, 2012 11:29 AM

Hi

The OCXO probably isn't going to do very well with the outdoor temperature swings…

Bob

On Oct 2, 2012, at 12:12 AM, Raj vu2zap@gmail.com wrote:

Just saw this mentioned in Circuit Cellar, just wonding if it really
exists, how much they are asking, and if anyone has played with one
yet?

http://www.rfx.co.uk/pdfs/GPS_OCXO_1300_10_module.pdf

It is small enough to incorporate in the external antenna !

Raj

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Hi The OCXO probably isn't going to do very well with the outdoor temperature swings… Bob On Oct 2, 2012, at 12:12 AM, Raj <vu2zap@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Just saw this mentioned in Circuit Cellar, just wonding if it really >> exists, how much they are asking, and if anyone has played with one >> yet? >> >> http://www.rfx.co.uk/pdfs/GPS_OCXO_1300_10_module.pdf > > It is small enough to incorporate in the external antenna ! > > Raj > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.

AB

Azelio Boriani

Tue, Oct 2, 2012 12:08 PM

Yes, I agree.

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Bob Camp lists@rtty.us wrote:

Hi

The OCXO probably isn't going to do very well with the outdoor temperature
swings…

Bob

On Oct 2, 2012, at 12:12 AM, Raj vu2zap@gmail.com wrote:

Just saw this mentioned in Circuit Cellar, just wonding if it really
exists, how much they are asking, and if anyone has played with one
yet?

http://www.rfx.co.uk/pdfs/GPS_OCXO_1300_10_module.pdf

It is small enough to incorporate in the external antenna !

Raj

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Yes, I agree. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Bob Camp <lists@rtty.us> wrote: > Hi > > The OCXO probably isn't going to do very well with the outdoor temperature > swings… > > Bob > > On Oct 2, 2012, at 12:12 AM, Raj <vu2zap@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> Just saw this mentioned in Circuit Cellar, just wonding if it really > >> exists, how much they are asking, and if anyone has played with one > >> yet? > >> > >> http://www.rfx.co.uk/pdfs/GPS_OCXO_1300_10_module.pdf > > > > It is small enough to incorporate in the external antenna ! > > > > Raj > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >

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Said Jackson

Tue, Oct 2, 2012 1:00 PM

Raj,

JLT just sent out a press release some days ago on the LC_XO sub 1 inch square GPSDO that is smaller and higher performance than the RFX unit, runs from only 3.3V, and it can be soldered into a 100 mil standard breadboard, and consumes only about 0.5W (RFX unit is probably >> 1W).

http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/jackson-labs-technologies-inc-delivers-lc_xo-complete-gpsdo-reference-sub-1-x-1-inch-1707006.htm

bye,
Said

On Oct 1, 2012, at 21:12, Raj vu2zap@gmail.com wrote:

Just saw this mentioned in Circuit Cellar, just wonding if it really
exists, how much they are asking, and if anyone has played with one
yet?

http://www.rfx.co.uk/pdfs/GPS_OCXO_1300_10_module.pdf

It is small enough to incorporate in the external antenna !

Raj

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Raj, JLT just sent out a press release some days ago on the LC_XO sub 1 inch square GPSDO that is smaller and higher performance than the RFX unit, runs from only 3.3V, and it can be soldered into a 100 mil standard breadboard, and consumes only about 0.5W (RFX unit is probably >> 1W). http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/jackson-labs-technologies-inc-delivers-lc_xo-complete-gpsdo-reference-sub-1-x-1-inch-1707006.htm bye, Said On Oct 1, 2012, at 21:12, Raj <vu2zap@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Just saw this mentioned in Circuit Cellar, just wonding if it really >> exists, how much they are asking, and if anyone has played with one >> yet? >> >> http://www.rfx.co.uk/pdfs/GPS_OCXO_1300_10_module.pdf > > It is small enough to incorporate in the external antenna ! > > Raj > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.

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Jim Lux

Tue, Oct 2, 2012 1:03 PM

On 10/2/12 5:08 AM, Azelio Boriani wrote:

Yes, I agree.

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Bob Camp lists@rtty.us wrote:

Hi

The OCXO probably isn't going to do very well with the outdoor temperature
swings…

Bob

Why not.. granted it's easier with large mass and large insulation, but
ultimately, it's all about the closed loop gain of the temperature
control loop. With small mass, the time lag effects will be small, at
least.

On 10/2/12 5:08 AM, Azelio Boriani wrote: > Yes, I agree. > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Bob Camp <lists@rtty.us> wrote: > >> Hi >> >> The OCXO probably isn't going to do very well with the outdoor temperature >> swings… >> >> Bob >> Why not.. granted it's easier with large mass and large insulation, but ultimately, it's all about the closed loop gain of the temperature control loop. With small mass, the time lag effects will be small, at least.

PS

paul swed

Tue, Oct 2, 2012 1:22 PM

Wonder what the cost is? Love the size and footprint. Something I can
solder to.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Jim Lux jimlux@earthlink.net wrote:

On 10/2/12 5:08 AM, Azelio Boriani wrote:

Yes, I agree.

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Bob Camp lists@rtty.us wrote:

Hi

The OCXO probably isn't going to do very well with the outdoor
temperature
swings…

Bob

Why not.. granted it's easier with large mass and large insulation, but
ultimately, it's all about the closed loop gain of the temperature control
loop. With small mass, the time lag effects will be small, at least.

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Wonder what the cost is? Love the size and footprint. Something I can solder to. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net> wrote: > On 10/2/12 5:08 AM, Azelio Boriani wrote: > >> Yes, I agree. >> >> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Bob Camp <lists@rtty.us> wrote: >> >> Hi >>> >>> The OCXO probably isn't going to do very well with the outdoor >>> temperature >>> swings… >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> > Why not.. granted it's easier with large mass and large insulation, but > ultimately, it's all about the closed loop gain of the temperature control > loop. With small mass, the time lag effects will be small, at least. > > > > > > ______________________________**_________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/** > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts<https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts> > and follow the instructions there. >

BC

Bob Camp

Tue, Oct 2, 2012 4:29 PM

Hi

The rated temperature stability of the OCXO is not "super good". You will
see more frequency shift on it than say the TBolt OCXO, far more than a
DOCXO.

That's not at all saying it's a bad part. For Time Nut duty, I would try to
keep it in a fairly benign ambient situation.

Bob

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To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] RFX GPSDO - Anybody played with one of these?

On 10/2/12 5:08 AM, Azelio Boriani wrote:

Yes, I agree.

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Bob Camp lists@rtty.us wrote:

Hi

The OCXO probably isn't going to do very well with the outdoor

temperature

swings.

Bob

Why not.. granted it's easier with large mass and large insulation, but
ultimately, it's all about the closed loop gain of the temperature
control loop. With small mass, the time lag effects will be small, at
least.

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Hi The rated temperature stability of the OCXO is not "super good". You will see more frequency shift on it than say the TBolt OCXO, far more than a DOCXO. That's not at all saying it's a bad part. For Time Nut duty, I would try to keep it in a fairly benign ambient situation. Bob -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lux Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 9:04 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] RFX GPSDO - Anybody played with one of these? On 10/2/12 5:08 AM, Azelio Boriani wrote: > Yes, I agree. > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Bob Camp <lists@rtty.us> wrote: > >> Hi >> >> The OCXO probably isn't going to do very well with the outdoor temperature >> swings. >> >> Bob >> Why not.. granted it's easier with large mass and large insulation, but ultimately, it's all about the closed loop gain of the temperature control loop. With small mass, the time lag effects will be small, at least. _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

PS

paul swed

Tue, Oct 2, 2012 7:23 PM

Said
I was looking and did not see the eval kit on the sight???
Thanks
Paul
WB8TSL

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Bob Camp lists@rtty.us wrote:

Hi

The rated temperature stability of the OCXO is not "super good". You will
see more frequency shift on it than say the TBolt OCXO, far more than a
DOCXO.

That's not at all saying it's a bad part. For Time Nut duty, I would try to
keep it in a fairly benign ambient situation.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Lux
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 9:04 AM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] RFX GPSDO - Anybody played with one of these?

On 10/2/12 5:08 AM, Azelio Boriani wrote:

Yes, I agree.

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Bob Camp lists@rtty.us wrote:

Hi

The OCXO probably isn't going to do very well with the outdoor

temperature

swings.

Bob

Why not.. granted it's easier with large mass and large insulation, but
ultimately, it's all about the closed loop gain of the temperature
control loop. With small mass, the time lag effects will be small, at
least.

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Said I was looking and did not see the eval kit on the sight??? Thanks Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Bob Camp <lists@rtty.us> wrote: > Hi > > The rated temperature stability of the OCXO is not "super good". You will > see more frequency shift on it than say the TBolt OCXO, far more than a > DOCXO. > > That's not at all saying it's a bad part. For Time Nut duty, I would try to > keep it in a fairly benign ambient situation. > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On > Behalf Of Jim Lux > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 9:04 AM > To: time-nuts@febo.com > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] RFX GPSDO - Anybody played with one of these? > > On 10/2/12 5:08 AM, Azelio Boriani wrote: > > Yes, I agree. > > > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Bob Camp <lists@rtty.us> wrote: > > > >> Hi > >> > >> The OCXO probably isn't going to do very well with the outdoor > temperature > >> swings. > >> > >> Bob > >> > > Why not.. granted it's easier with large mass and large insulation, but > ultimately, it's all about the closed loop gain of the temperature > control loop. With small mass, the time lag effects will be small, at > least. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >

S

shalimr9@gmail.com

Tue, Oct 2, 2012 9:28 PM

Well Said, it looks like you have been busy!

Congrats for an amazing product.

Didier

Sent from my Droid Razr 4G LTE wireless tracker.

-----Original Message-----
From: Said Jackson saidjack@aol.com
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Cc: "swithrow@alum.mit.edu" swithrow@alum.mit.edu, Discussion of precise
time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] RFX GPSDO - Anybody played with one of these?

Raj,

JLT just sent out a press release some days ago on the LC_XO sub 1 inch square GPSDO that is smaller and higher performance than the RFX unit, runs from only 3.3V, and it can be soldered into a 100 mil standard breadboard, and consumes only about 0.5W (RFX unit is probably >> 1W).

http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/jackson-labs-technologies-inc-delivers-lc_xo-complete-gpsdo-reference-sub-1-x-1-inch-1707006.htm

bye,
Said

On Oct 1, 2012, at 21:12, Raj vu2zap@gmail.com wrote:

Just saw this mentioned in Circuit Cellar, just wonding if it really
exists, how much they are asking, and if anyone has played with one
yet?

http://www.rfx.co.uk/pdfs/GPS_OCXO_1300_10_module.pdf

It is small enough to incorporate in the external antenna !

Raj

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Well Said, it looks like you have been busy! Congrats for an amazing product. Didier Sent from my Droid Razr 4G LTE wireless tracker. -----Original Message----- From: Said Jackson <saidjack@aol.com> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> Cc: "swithrow@alum.mit.edu" <swithrow@alum.mit.edu>, Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> Sent: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] RFX GPSDO - Anybody played with one of these? Raj, JLT just sent out a press release some days ago on the LC_XO sub 1 inch square GPSDO that is smaller and higher performance than the RFX unit, runs from only 3.3V, and it can be soldered into a 100 mil standard breadboard, and consumes only about 0.5W (RFX unit is probably >> 1W). http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/jackson-labs-technologies-inc-delivers-lc_xo-complete-gpsdo-reference-sub-1-x-1-inch-1707006.htm bye, Said On Oct 1, 2012, at 21:12, Raj <vu2zap@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Just saw this mentioned in Circuit Cellar, just wonding if it really >> exists, how much they are asking, and if anyone has played with one >> yet? >> >> http://www.rfx.co.uk/pdfs/GPS_OCXO_1300_10_module.pdf > > It is small enough to incorporate in the external antenna ! > > Raj > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

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