Good morning all, For those of you who use the Getty Vocabularies (AAT, TGN, ULAN, & CONA) in your cataloging records might be interested in this project. They are currently looking for community partners. See http://www.getty.edu/research/tools/vocabularies/lod/. Best, Jan Eklund

Janice, Thanks for the pointer! This is going to be a big step forward in accessibility of this very useful metadata! John On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Janice Eklund <janice.l.eklund@gmail.com> wrote: > Good morning all, > > For those of you who use the Getty Vocabularies (AAT, TGN, ULAN, & CONA) in > your cataloging records might be interested in this project. They are > currently looking for community partners. See > http://www.getty.edu/research/tools/vocabularies/lod/. > > Best, > > Jan Eklund > > _______________________________________________ > Talk mailing list > Talk@lists.collectionspace.org > http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collectionspace.org >

Very interesting – thanks. Perhaps this will lead to a use-case for the sometimes discussed hack-a-thon around the Space projects. OTOH, we need to see collections that actually use these vocabularies. I’ve heard in the past that actual use is not as high as I would have expected given the reputation of the Getty vocabs. Patrick *From:* Talk [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] *On Behalf Of *Janice Eklund *Sent:* Wednesday, November 06, 2013 10:35 AM *To:* CollectionSpace Talk List *Subject:* [Talk] Getty Vocabs as Open Linked Data Project Good morning all, For those of you who use the Getty Vocabularies (AAT, TGN, ULAN, & CONA) in your cataloging records might be interested in this project. They are currently looking for community partners. See http://www.getty.edu/research/tools/vocabularies/lod/. Best, Jan Eklund

Thanks much as well for sharing this, Jan! Patrick wrote: > OTOH, we need to see collections that actually use these vocabularies. I’ve heard in the past that actual use is not as high as I would have expected given the reputation of the Getty vocabs. There are at least a few publicly available metrics regarding the uptake of these vocabularies: A presentation by Patricia Harpring, Managing Editor of the Getty Vocabulary Program (http://www.getty.edu/research/tools/vocabularies/Linked_Data_Getty_Vocabularies.pdf - see p. 7 of the PDF document) notes that, for the full vocabularies (whether available as XML files, relational tables, or via a web services interface), there are: "300 licenses (e.g., systems’ vendors for collection management systems, providers of search engines, etc." A characterization of these licensees can be found via a 2010 interview with Patricia (http://blogs.getty.edu/iris/getty-profiles-patricia-harpring-managing-editor-of-the-getty-vocabulary-program/): "Are these vocabularies used at other institutions beyond the Getty? "Yes. They’re licensed by institutions and businesses that build cataloging systems—both not-for-profits such as universities and museums and for-profit companies that use them in cataloging and retrieval systems. For example, Gallery Systems, whose TMS software is used by the Museum and the GRI, licenses the Getty vocabularies. Their users then have access to the vocabularies when they’re cataloging works of art." Beyond this set of 300 licensees, "The Getty vocabularies are made available via the Web to support limited research and cataloging efforts only ... free of charge, for searching individual terms and names. Licensing is required for more extensive use of these tools." According to Ms. Harpring's presentation, there are "180,000 searches per month globally" across the four Getty vocabularies. Aron On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Patrick Schmitz <pschmitz@berkeley.edu> wrote: > Very interesting – thanks. > > > > Perhaps this will lead to a use-case for the sometimes discussed hack-a-thon > around the Space projects. OTOH, we need to see collections that actually > use these vocabularies. I’ve heard in the past that actual use is not as > high as I would have expected given the reputation of the Getty vocabs. > > > > Patrick > > > > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] On Behalf Of > Janice Eklund > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 10:35 AM > To: CollectionSpace Talk List > Subject: [Talk] Getty Vocabs as Open Linked Data Project > > > > Good morning all, > > > > For those of you who use the Getty Vocabularies (AAT, TGN, ULAN, & CONA) in > your cataloging records might be interested in this project. They are > currently looking for community partners. See > http://www.getty.edu/research/tools/vocabularies/lod/. > > > > Best, > > > > Jan Eklund > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk mailing list > Talk@lists.collectionspace.org > http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collectionspace.org >

I have heard the actual use (references in metadata) in museum collections is not that widespread. Hey Museum people - speak up! Patrick > -----Original Message----- > From: Aron Roberts [mailto:aronroberts@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 12:40 PM > To: Patrick Schmitz > Cc: Janice Eklund; CollectionSpace Talk List > Subject: Re: [Talk] Getty Vocabs as Open Linked Data Project > > Thanks much as well for sharing this, Jan! > > Patrick wrote: > > OTOH, we need to see collections that actually use these vocabularies. > I’ve heard in the past that actual use is not as high as I would have > expected > given the reputation of the Getty vocabs. > > There are at least a few publicly available metrics regarding the uptake > of > these vocabularies: > > A presentation by Patricia Harpring, Managing Editor of the Getty > Vocabulary Program > (http://www.getty.edu/research/tools/vocabularies/Linked_Data_Getty_V > ocabularies.pdf > - see p. 7 of the PDF document) notes that, for the full vocabularies > (whether available as XML files, relational tables, or via a web services > interface), there are: > > "300 licenses (e.g., systems’ vendors for collection management systems, > providers of search engines, etc." > > A characterization of these licensees can be found via a 2010 interview > with > Patricia > (http://blogs.getty.edu/iris/getty-profiles-patricia-harpring-managing- > editor-of-the-getty-vocabulary-program/): > > "Are these vocabularies used at other institutions beyond the Getty? > > "Yes. They’re licensed by institutions and businesses that build > cataloging > systems—both not-for-profits such as universities and museums and for- > profit companies that use them in cataloging and retrieval systems. For > example, Gallery Systems, whose TMS software is used by the Museum and > the GRI, licenses the Getty vocabularies. Their users then have access to > the > vocabularies when they’re cataloging works of art." > > Beyond this set of 300 licensees, "The Getty vocabularies are made > available > via the Web to support limited research and cataloging efforts only ... > free > of charge, for searching individual terms and names. Licensing is required > for more extensive use of these tools." > > According to Ms. Harpring's presentation, there are "180,000 searches per > month globally" across the four Getty vocabularies. > > Aron > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Patrick Schmitz <pschmitz@berkeley.edu> > wrote: > > Very interesting – thanks. > > > > > > > > Perhaps this will lead to a use-case for the sometimes discussed > > hack-a-thon around the Space projects. OTOH, we need to see > > collections that actually use these vocabularies. I’ve heard in the > > past that actual use is not as high as I would have expected given the > reputation of the Getty vocabs. > > > > > > > > Patrick > > > > > > > > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] On Behalf > > Of Janice Eklund > > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 10:35 AM > > To: CollectionSpace Talk List > > Subject: [Talk] Getty Vocabs as Open Linked Data Project > > > > > > > > Good morning all, > > > > > > > > For those of you who use the Getty Vocabularies (AAT, TGN, ULAN, & > > CONA) in your cataloging records might be interested in this project. > > They are currently looking for community partners. See > > http://www.getty.edu/research/tools/vocabularies/lod/. > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > Jan Eklund > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Talk mailing list > > Talk@lists.collectionspace.org > > http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collectio > > nspace.org > >

We at PAHMA would be happy to use some of the Getty vocabs if it were possible to locally extend or enhance them. They're a great framework; they just didn't have a lot of the terms we need to use. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Patrick Schmitz <pschmitz@berkeley.edu>wrote: > I have heard the actual use (references in metadata) in museum collections > is not that widespread. > > Hey Museum people - speak up! > > Patrick > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Aron Roberts [mailto:aronroberts@gmail.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 12:40 PM > > To: Patrick Schmitz > > Cc: Janice Eklund; CollectionSpace Talk List > > Subject: Re: [Talk] Getty Vocabs as Open Linked Data Project > > > > Thanks much as well for sharing this, Jan! > > > > Patrick wrote: > > > OTOH, we need to see collections that actually use these vocabularies. > > I’ve heard in the past that actual use is not as high as I would have > > expected > > given the reputation of the Getty vocabs. > > > > There are at least a few publicly available metrics regarding the uptake > > of > > these vocabularies: > > > > A presentation by Patricia Harpring, Managing Editor of the Getty > > Vocabulary Program > > (http://www.getty.edu/research/tools/vocabularies/Linked_Data_Getty_V > > ocabularies.pdf > > - see p. 7 of the PDF document) notes that, for the full vocabularies > > (whether available as XML files, relational tables, or via a web services > > interface), there are: > > > > "300 licenses (e.g., systems’ vendors for collection management systems, > > providers of search engines, etc." > > > > A characterization of these licensees can be found via a 2010 interview > > with > > Patricia > > (http://blogs.getty.edu/iris/getty-profiles-patricia-harpring-managing- > > editor-of-the-getty-vocabulary-program/): > > > > "Are these vocabularies used at other institutions beyond the Getty? > > > > "Yes. They’re licensed by institutions and businesses that build > > cataloging > > systems—both not-for-profits such as universities and museums and for- > > profit companies that use them in cataloging and retrieval systems. For > > example, Gallery Systems, whose TMS software is used by the Museum and > > the GRI, licenses the Getty vocabularies. Their users then have access to > > the > > vocabularies when they’re cataloging works of art." > > > > Beyond this set of 300 licensees, "The Getty vocabularies are made > > available > > via the Web to support limited research and cataloging efforts only ... > > free > > of charge, for searching individual terms and names. Licensing is > required > > for more extensive use of these tools." > > > > According to Ms. Harpring's presentation, there are "180,000 searches per > > month globally" across the four Getty vocabularies. > > > > Aron > > > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Patrick Schmitz <pschmitz@berkeley.edu> > > wrote: > > > Very interesting – thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps this will lead to a use-case for the sometimes discussed > > > hack-a-thon around the Space projects. OTOH, we need to see > > > collections that actually use these vocabularies. I’ve heard in the > > > past that actual use is not as high as I would have expected given the > > reputation of the Getty vocabs. > > > > > > > > > > > > Patrick > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] On Behalf > > > Of Janice Eklund > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 10:35 AM > > > To: CollectionSpace Talk List > > > Subject: [Talk] Getty Vocabs as Open Linked Data Project > > > > > > > > > > > > Good morning all, > > > > > > > > > > > > For those of you who use the Getty Vocabularies (AAT, TGN, ULAN, & > > > CONA) in your cataloging records might be interested in this project. > > > They are currently looking for community partners. See > > > http://www.getty.edu/research/tools/vocabularies/lod/. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > Jan Eklund > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Talk mailing list > > > Talk@lists.collectionspace.org > > > http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collectio > > > nspace.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk mailing list > Talk@lists.collectionspace.org > > http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collectionspace.org >

Aron, et al., Thanks for the research. Colleagues, Do these results imply there will be IP issues in using the new LOD version of these resources. E.g. will UC (or whoever) have to pay Getty cash money to use this stuff? If so, are "we" ready to cough up? On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Aron Roberts <aronroberts@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks much as well for sharing this, Jan! > > Patrick wrote: >> OTOH, we need to see collections that actually use these vocabularies. I’ve heard in the past that actual use is not as high as I would have expected given the reputation of the Getty vocabs. > > There are at least a few publicly available metrics regarding the > uptake of these vocabularies: > > A presentation by Patricia Harpring, Managing Editor of the Getty > Vocabulary Program > (http://www.getty.edu/research/tools/vocabularies/Linked_Data_Getty_Vocabularies.pdf > - see p. 7 of the PDF document) notes that, for the full vocabularies > (whether available as XML files, relational tables, or via a web > services interface), there are: > > "300 licenses (e.g., systems’ vendors for collection management > systems, providers of search engines, etc." > > A characterization of these licensees can be found via a 2010 > interview with Patricia > (http://blogs.getty.edu/iris/getty-profiles-patricia-harpring-managing-editor-of-the-getty-vocabulary-program/): > > "Are these vocabularies used at other institutions beyond the Getty? > > "Yes. They’re licensed by institutions and businesses that build > cataloging systems—both not-for-profits such as universities and > museums and for-profit companies that use them in cataloging and > retrieval systems. For example, Gallery Systems, whose TMS software is > used by the Museum and the GRI, licenses the Getty vocabularies. Their > users then have access to the vocabularies when they’re cataloging > works of art." > > Beyond this set of 300 licensees, "The Getty vocabularies are made > available via the Web to support limited research and cataloging > efforts only ... free of charge, for searching individual terms and > names. Licensing is required for more extensive use of these tools." > > According to Ms. Harpring's presentation, there are "180,000 searches > per month globally" across the four Getty vocabularies. > > Aron > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Patrick Schmitz <pschmitz@berkeley.edu> wrote: >> Very interesting – thanks. >> >> >> >> Perhaps this will lead to a use-case for the sometimes discussed hack-a-thon >> around the Space projects. OTOH, we need to see collections that actually >> use these vocabularies. I’ve heard in the past that actual use is not as >> high as I would have expected given the reputation of the Getty vocabs. >> >> >> >> Patrick >> >> >> >> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces@lists.collectionspace.org] On Behalf Of >> Janice Eklund >> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 10:35 AM >> To: CollectionSpace Talk List >> Subject: [Talk] Getty Vocabs as Open Linked Data Project >> >> >> >> Good morning all, >> >> >> >> For those of you who use the Getty Vocabularies (AAT, TGN, ULAN, & CONA) in >> your cataloging records might be interested in this project. They are >> currently looking for community partners. See >> http://www.getty.edu/research/tools/vocabularies/lod/. >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> >> >> Jan Eklund >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk mailing list >> Talk@lists.collectionspace.org >> http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collectionspace.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > Talk mailing list > Talk@lists.collectionspace.org > http://lists.collectionspace.org/mailman/listinfo/talk_lists.collectionspace.org