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Milt Baker
Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:04 PM

I'm thinking about a trip up the Hudson River or Lake Champlain and down the
St. Lawrence Seaway, stopping at the Bras d'Or Lakes and Nova Scotia on the
way back to Maine, but I don't know the geography and seek the wisdom of the
board.

Specifically, what are the options for getting from the Atlantic seaboard to
the St. Lawrence River?  My draft is a solid 6 feet and my bridge clearance
is 35 feet, but I'm prepared to remove the mast and carry it on deck if that's
neceessary.

Any ideas or local knowledge gratefully accepted!  Recommended cruising
guides?

Thanks,

--Milt Baker, Nordhavn 47 Bluewater, Palm Beach Gardens, FL

I'm thinking about a trip up the Hudson River or Lake Champlain and down the St. Lawrence Seaway, stopping at the Bras d'Or Lakes and Nova Scotia on the way back to Maine, but I don't know the geography and seek the wisdom of the board. Specifically, what are the options for getting from the Atlantic seaboard to the St. Lawrence River? My draft is a solid 6 feet and my bridge clearance is 35 feet, but I'm prepared to remove the mast and carry it on deck if that's neceessary. Any ideas or local knowledge gratefully accepted! Recommended cruising guides? Thanks, --Milt Baker, Nordhavn 47 Bluewater, Palm Beach Gardens, FL
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Ross Anderson
Sun, Jan 25, 2009 9:59 PM

Milt, tried to reply but your email was blocked so responding this
way. From Hudson either the Eire or Champlain Canals. The Champlain
Canal
(Low Bridge 15') takes you to Lake Champlain and then to the St.
Lawrence by way of the Richelieu river exiting into the St. Lawrence
at Sorel Quebec, east of Montreal. The problem with that route is
draft. in Richelieu of 4'  to 5' I think is max but should check that.
Otherwise a beautiful trip. I would also plan side trips to the Isle
de Madelines (Magdeline Islands) and Prince Edward Island on the way
to the Bra D'or. These islands should not be missed. Good trawlering
and God Bless - Ross 10&2

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Milt Baker miltbaker@mindspring.com wrote:

I'm thinking about a trip up the Hudson River or Lake Champlain and down the
St. Lawrence Seaway, stopping at the Bras d'Or Lakes and Nova Scotia on the
way back to Maine, but I don't know the geography and seek the wisdom of the
board.

Specifically, what are the options for getting from the Atlantic seaboard to
the St. Lawrence River?  My draft is a solid 6 feet and my bridge clearance
is 35 feet, but I'm prepared to remove the mast and carry it on deck if that's
neceessary.

Any ideas or local knowledge gratefully accepted!  Recommended cruising
guides?

Thanks,

--Milt Baker, Nordhavn 47 Bluewater, Palm Beach Gardens, FL


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Milt, tried to reply but your email was blocked so responding this way. From Hudson either the Eire or Champlain Canals. The Champlain Canal (Low Bridge 15') takes you to Lake Champlain and then to the St. Lawrence by way of the Richelieu river exiting into the St. Lawrence at Sorel Quebec, east of Montreal. The problem with that route is draft. in Richelieu of 4' to 5' I think is max but should check that. Otherwise a beautiful trip. I would also plan side trips to the Isle de Madelines (Magdeline Islands) and Prince Edward Island on the way to the Bra D'or. These islands should not be missed. Good trawlering and God Bless - Ross 10&2 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Milt Baker <miltbaker@mindspring.com> wrote: > I'm thinking about a trip up the Hudson River or Lake Champlain and down the > St. Lawrence Seaway, stopping at the Bras d'Or Lakes and Nova Scotia on the > way back to Maine, but I don't know the geography and seek the wisdom of the > board. > > Specifically, what are the options for getting from the Atlantic seaboard to > the St. Lawrence River? My draft is a solid 6 feet and my bridge clearance > is 35 feet, but I'm prepared to remove the mast and carry it on deck if that's > neceessary. > > Any ideas or local knowledge gratefully accepted! Recommended cruising > guides? > > Thanks, > > --Milt Baker, Nordhavn 47 Bluewater, Palm Beach Gardens, FL > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power > > To unsubscribe send email to > passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com with the word > UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. > > Passagemaking Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World Productions, formerly known as Trawler World Productions.
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Sylvain Sirois
Sun, Jan 25, 2009 11:04 PM

I am responding to two different messages on two different lists.  PUP and
Great loop.

My english is poor, so, excuse mistakes

I am living in Baie-Comeau, Quebec, in the St-Laurence Golf. 490 13,663' N
0680 07,827' W

My playground is between Tadoussac 48007,50N - 69040,30'W and
Sainte-Anne-des-Monts 49067.38 N  66029.24 W

The route will depend on how you want to do the trip.  Fast, or slow and
look around.

Here it is still teh St-Laurence River but it is open sea condition.  Salt
water, whales, important tides, waves, fog.

One important aspect is on south shore, the river is shallow, warm and
murky.  On the north coast, it is very deep, cold and relatively clear.

One of my recommendation is to spend a couple days in Quebec City, you will
find there an interesting city, with a lot of history.

When leaving Quebec, you could make a stop at Cap-`-l'Aigle
http://www.refugecapalaigle.com/

After you may go to Tadoussac http://www.marina-tadoussac.com/

Tadoussac is one beautiful bay and an historic village.  Tadoussac is the
mouth of the Saguenay River.

If you are not in a hurry, get to Chicoutimie 60 miles north of Tadoussac,
the Saguenay River offer spectacular view.  In Chicoutimie, the marina is in
the downtown.

After leaving Tadoussac, head for Rimouski, on the south shore,
http://www.rimouskiweb.com/marina/  Rimouski is a nice city, some good
restaurant, shopping center...

Then cross the river again to come to Baie-Comeau. Baie-Comeau is the last
point to get fuel and provision before Gaspi.  Baie-Comeau is an industrial
city.  You can visit Manic 2 and 5 power dam

http://www.hydroquebec.com/production/hydroelectrique/manicouagan/manic_5/in
dex.html
http://www.hydroquebec.com/production/hydroelectrique/manicouagan/manic_2/in
dex.html

But the main attraction is the wilderness and the Baie St-Pancrace
http://www.club-nautique-bc.net/page_Anse_Saint-Pancrace.htm

It is a deep water protected bay whare we have build a pontoon of 350 foot
to accommodate the boaters. Dont expect electricity at the pontoon, it is a
remote area, quiet.

http://www.cruisesaintlawrence.com/EN/stopovers/photo/7/Baie-Comeau.aspx
http://croisieresbaie-comeau.ca/en/baie_st_pancrace.html

It is the perfect place to fish code, relax and enjoy the fresh air.  If you
are a diver, Baie-Comeau, is the only place in the world to dive with
Greenland sharks.  I will be please to introduce you to my sharks.

After leaving St-Pancrace (Baie-Comeau) cross to south shore to
Sainte-Anne-des-Monts it is a crossing of approximately 60nm.  Nothing
special to say, it is a pretty village with a nice marina.

After leaving St-Anne-des-Monts, you may stop to Rivihre Madeleine but most
people go directly to Club Nautique Forillon (Rivihre-au-Renard).

The it is out of my knowledge

CHS is producing all the guides and charts you will need.
http://www.cartes.gc.ca/pub/en/products/default.asp

After the maps, you will need the Sailing Directions ATL110E St. Lawrence
River, Cap Whittle/ Cap Gaspi to Les Escoumins, 2002  I think they exagerate
the risk but it is very useful.

For the marinas, i use http://www.capmarina.com/ this website is complet
with all the coordinates you will need to make reservations.

I have included a copy for Mr Ron Barr he have make this trip 3 or 4 years
ago.  If he wants he will be able to help you.

Have a french english dictionary with you, Quebec is a french province, it
is not everybody who speak english but people will try their best to
communicate with you.

I hope it will help you in the planning of your trip.  Dont hesitate to
communicate with me for any other informations you may need and I will be
happy to show you the city and its surrounding.

Best time and weather, July ans August.

Sylvain Sirois
http://www.plongeess.com
35 ft trawler, ex fishing boat in conversion

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Milt Baker
Envoyi : 25 janvier 2009 16:05
@ : Passagemaking Under Power List
Objet : [PUP] Getting to the St. Lawrence Seaway

I'm thinking about a trip up the Hudson River or Lake Champlain and down the
St. Lawrence Seaway, stopping at the Bras d'Or Lakes and Nova Scotia on the
way back to Maine, but I don't know the geography and seek the wisdom of the
board.

Specifically, what are the options for getting from the Atlantic seaboard to
the St. Lawrence River?  My draft is a solid 6 feet and my bridge clearance
is 35 feet, but I'm prepared to remove the mast and carry it on deck if
that's neceessary.

Any ideas or local knowledge gratefully accepted!  Recommended cruising
guides?

Thanks,

--Milt Baker, Nordhavn 47 Bluewater, Palm Beach Gardens, FL


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Envoyi : 17 janvier 2009 18:15
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Objet : GL: Montreal to Maine

Hi everyone.
I've been sitting in  on these conversations for a year. Many very
helpful....my folders are burgeoning with good stuff.
My wife and I brought our boat  from Florida to Toronto last Spring, up the
ICW, through the Erie Canal, etc.  and did some wonderful cruising around
Lake Ontario for the rest of the summer.  We left the boat up there for the
winter with the intention being to head up the Rideau to Ottawa, down to
Montreal and then out the St. Lawrence, around the Gaspe, past PEI, through
the Canso Straights, down the east coast of Nova Scotia, across to Maine and
then down to our home in South Carolina in late Sept. I had originally
thought of doing the usual thing and heading west through the Great Lakes
and down to the Gulf but have decided to do this trip instead (unless
someone and/or additional research convinces me otherwise.) Lots of coastal
open water but we have time to be careful.  Anyway....I'd appreciate making
contact with anyone who's made this trip.

Bruce Carroll
Butterfly
PDQ 34


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I am responding to two different messages on two different lists. PUP and Great loop. My english is poor, so, excuse mistakes I am living in Baie-Comeau, Quebec, in the St-Laurence Golf. 490 13,663' N 0680 07,827' W My playground is between Tadoussac 48007,50N - 69040,30'W and Sainte-Anne-des-Monts 49067.38 N 66029.24 W The route will depend on how you want to do the trip. Fast, or slow and look around. Here it is still teh St-Laurence River but it is open sea condition. Salt water, whales, important tides, waves, fog. One important aspect is on south shore, the river is shallow, warm and murky. On the north coast, it is very deep, cold and relatively clear. One of my recommendation is to spend a couple days in Quebec City, you will find there an interesting city, with a lot of history. When leaving Quebec, you could make a stop at Cap-`-l'Aigle http://www.refugecapalaigle.com/ After you may go to Tadoussac http://www.marina-tadoussac.com/ Tadoussac is one beautiful bay and an historic village. Tadoussac is the mouth of the Saguenay River. If you are not in a hurry, get to Chicoutimie 60 miles north of Tadoussac, the Saguenay River offer spectacular view. In Chicoutimie, the marina is in the downtown. After leaving Tadoussac, head for Rimouski, on the south shore, http://www.rimouskiweb.com/marina/ Rimouski is a nice city, some good restaurant, shopping center... Then cross the river again to come to Baie-Comeau. Baie-Comeau is the last point to get fuel and provision before Gaspi. Baie-Comeau is an industrial city. You can visit Manic 2 and 5 power dam http://www.hydroquebec.com/production/hydroelectrique/manicouagan/manic_5/in dex.html http://www.hydroquebec.com/production/hydroelectrique/manicouagan/manic_2/in dex.html But the main attraction is the wilderness and the Baie St-Pancrace http://www.club-nautique-bc.net/page_Anse_Saint-Pancrace.htm It is a deep water protected bay whare we have build a pontoon of 350 foot to accommodate the boaters. Dont expect electricity at the pontoon, it is a remote area, quiet. http://www.cruisesaintlawrence.com/EN/stopovers/photo/7/Baie-Comeau.aspx http://croisieresbaie-comeau.ca/en/baie_st_pancrace.html It is the perfect place to fish code, relax and enjoy the fresh air. If you are a diver, Baie-Comeau, is the only place in the world to dive with Greenland sharks. I will be please to introduce you to my sharks. After leaving St-Pancrace (Baie-Comeau) cross to south shore to Sainte-Anne-des-Monts it is a crossing of approximately 60nm. Nothing special to say, it is a pretty village with a nice marina. After leaving St-Anne-des-Monts, you may stop to Rivihre Madeleine but most people go directly to Club Nautique Forillon (Rivihre-au-Renard). The it is out of my knowledge CHS is producing all the guides and charts you will need. http://www.cartes.gc.ca/pub/en/products/default.asp After the maps, you will need the Sailing Directions ATL110E St. Lawrence River, Cap Whittle/ Cap Gaspi to Les Escoumins, 2002 I think they exagerate the risk but it is very useful. For the marinas, i use http://www.capmarina.com/ this website is complet with all the coordinates you will need to make reservations. I have included a copy for Mr Ron Barr he have make this trip 3 or 4 years ago. If he wants he will be able to help you. Have a french english dictionary with you, Quebec is a french province, it is not everybody who speak english but people will try their best to communicate with you. I hope it will help you in the planning of your trip. Dont hesitate to communicate with me for any other informations you may need and I will be happy to show you the city and its surrounding. Best time and weather, July ans August. Sylvain Sirois http://www.plongeess.com 35 ft trawler, ex fishing boat in conversion -----Message d'origine----- De : passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com] De la part de Milt Baker Envoyi : 25 janvier 2009 16:05 @ : Passagemaking Under Power List Objet : [PUP] Getting to the St. Lawrence Seaway I'm thinking about a trip up the Hudson River or Lake Champlain and down the St. Lawrence Seaway, stopping at the Bras d'Or Lakes and Nova Scotia on the way back to Maine, but I don't know the geography and seek the wisdom of the board. Specifically, what are the options for getting from the Atlantic seaboard to the St. Lawrence River? My draft is a solid 6 feet and my bridge clearance is 35 feet, but I'm prepared to remove the mast and carry it on deck if that's neceessary. Any ideas or local knowledge gratefully accepted! Recommended cruising guides? Thanks, --Milt Baker, Nordhavn 47 Bluewater, Palm Beach Gardens, FL _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power To unsubscribe send email to passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com with the word UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. Passagemaking Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World Productions, formerly known as Trawler World Productions. -----Message d'origine----- De : great-loop-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.samurai.com] De la part de bruce carroll Envoyi : 17 janvier 2009 18:15 @ : great-loop@lists.samurai.com Objet : GL: Montreal to Maine Hi everyone. I've been sitting in on these conversations for a year. Many very helpful....my folders are burgeoning with good stuff. My wife and I brought our boat from Florida to Toronto last Spring, up the ICW, through the Erie Canal, etc. and did some wonderful cruising around Lake Ontario for the rest of the summer. We left the boat up there for the winter with the intention being to head up the Rideau to Ottawa, down to Montreal and then out the St. Lawrence, around the Gaspe, past PEI, through the Canso Straights, down the east coast of Nova Scotia, across to Maine and then down to our home in South Carolina in late Sept. I had originally thought of doing the usual thing and heading west through the Great Lakes and down to the Gulf but have decided to do this trip instead (unless someone and/or additional research convinces me otherwise.) Lots of coastal open water but we have time to be careful. Anyway....I'd appreciate making contact with anyone who's made this trip. 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