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Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt - temperature

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Mark Sims
Fri, Jul 11, 2008 9:23 PM

The temperature is the electronics temperature.  When I put the cover on my red-boxed unit,  the temperature went up about 8 C.  This would not have happened if them temp was inside the thermostatically controlled oven.


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Magnus Danielson
Sat, Jul 12, 2008 8:18 AM

From: Mark Sims holrum@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt - temperature
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:23:20 +0000
Message-ID: BLU125-W54E011757266C1EF374E70CE900@phx.gbl

The temperature is the electronics temperature.  When I put the cover on my red-boxed unit,  the temperature went up about 8 C.  This would not have happened if them temp was inside the thermostatically controlled oven.

The temperature in the oven would also shift, but not by that amount. The
numbers I have seen seems to indicate electronics temperature, and this is
more usefull if a single temperature is given.

Cheers,
Magnus

From: Mark Sims <holrum@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt - temperature Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:23:20 +0000 Message-ID: <BLU125-W54E011757266C1EF374E70CE900@phx.gbl> > > The temperature is the electronics temperature. When I put the cover on my red-boxed unit, the temperature went up about 8 C. This would not have happened if them temp was inside the thermostatically controlled oven. The temperature in the oven would also shift, but not by that amount. The numbers I have seen seems to indicate electronics temperature, and this is more usefull if a single temperature is given. Cheers, Magnus
BG
Bruce Griffiths
Sat, Jul 12, 2008 8:36 AM

Magnus Danielson wrote:

The temperature is the electronics temperature.  When I put the cover on my red-boxed unit,  the temperature went up about 8 C.  This would not have happened if them temp was inside the thermostatically controlled oven.

The temperature in the oven would also shift, but not by that amount. The
numbers I have seen seems to indicate electronics temperature, and this is
more usefull if a single temperature is given.

Cheers,
Magnus

The ambient air temperature at a specific point within the enclosure or
the temperature of a specific component?
i.e. any pictures of the temperature sensor and its location.

Are the apparent rapid temperature fluctuations observed by some real or
are they the result of inadvertent detection of an intermittent burst of
EMI from a switching supply?

Bruce

Magnus Danielson wrote: >> The temperature is the electronics temperature. When I put the cover on my red-boxed unit, the temperature went up about 8 C. This would not have happened if them temp was inside the thermostatically controlled oven. >> > > The temperature in the oven would also shift, but not by that amount. The > numbers I have seen seems to indicate electronics temperature, and this is > more usefull if a single temperature is given. > > Cheers, > Magnus > > The ambient air temperature at a specific point within the enclosure or the temperature of a specific component? i.e. any pictures of the temperature sensor and its location. Are the apparent rapid temperature fluctuations observed by some real or are they the result of inadvertent detection of an intermittent burst of EMI from a switching supply? Bruce
GB
Greg Burnett
Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:59 PM

Has anyone established a recommended adjustment window for the Thunderbolt's
10MHz oscillator free-running frequency? Put another way, does anybody have
a feel for how far from "nominal 10 MHz" the free-running frequency can be
before it in some way (if at all) degrades "locked" performance?

I'm assuming that, after power-down, the box looses its 'holdover' memory
and, upon re-power, reverts to zero hold-over correction? Or does the box
remember its last hold-over offset correction despite a power loss?

Cheers,
Greg

Has anyone established a recommended adjustment window for the Thunderbolt's 10MHz oscillator free-running frequency? Put another way, does anybody have a feel for how far from "nominal 10 MHz" the free-running frequency can be before it in some way (if at all) degrades "locked" performance? I'm assuming that, after power-down, the box looses its 'holdover' memory and, upon re-power, reverts to zero hold-over correction? Or does the box remember its last hold-over offset correction despite a power loss? Cheers, Greg