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Case for Rb Standard?

BS
Bob Stewart
Fri, Sep 27, 2013 3:03 AM

I've had the Rb on the shelf for a few days next to a few old 3.5" disk drives, and it suddenly struck me that they're about the same size.  External drive cases and PSUs are "cheap as chips", as they say, so I was wondering how many people are using an external drive case to hold their Rb standard?  Any brand favorites?

Bob - AE6RV

I've had the Rb on the shelf for a few days next to a few old 3.5" disk drives, and it suddenly struck me that they're about the same size.  External drive cases and PSUs are "cheap as chips", as they say, so I was wondering how many people are using an external drive case to hold their Rb standard?  Any brand favorites? Bob - AE6RV
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Chris Albertson
Fri, Sep 27, 2013 3:46 AM

I'm using a case from an old Sun workstation.  The "lunchbox" series.  Same
for my Thunderbolt GPS.  The cases stack nicely.  Painted all my old Sun
cases bright electric blue.

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Bob Stewart bob@evoria.net wrote:

I've had the Rb on the shelf for a few days next to a few old 3.5" disk
drives, and it suddenly struck me that they're about the same size.
External drive cases and PSUs are "cheap as chips", as they say, so I was
wondering how many people are using an external drive case to hold their Rb
standard?  Any brand favorites?

Bob - AE6RV


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I'm using a case from an old Sun workstation. The "lunchbox" series. Same for my Thunderbolt GPS. The cases stack nicely. Painted all my old Sun cases bright electric blue. On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Bob Stewart <bob@evoria.net> wrote: > I've had the Rb on the shelf for a few days next to a few old 3.5" disk > drives, and it suddenly struck me that they're about the same size. > External drive cases and PSUs are "cheap as chips", as they say, so I was > wondering how many people are using an external drive case to hold their Rb > standard? Any brand favorites? > > Bob - AE6RV > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California
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Rob Kimberley
Fri, Sep 27, 2013 9:32 AM

Bob,

Should work OK if it's a metal case and fan is good. You need a decent also
heat sink as they run pretty hot.

Rob

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Sent: 27 September 2013 04:03
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Subject: [time-nuts] Case for Rb Standard?

I've had the Rb on the shelf for a few days next to a few old 3.5" disk
drives, and it suddenly struck me that they're about the same size. 
External drive cases and PSUs are "cheap as chips", as they say, so I was
wondering how many people are using an external drive case to hold their Rb
standard?  Any brand favorites?

Bob - AE6RV


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Bob, Should work OK if it's a metal case and fan is good. You need a decent also heat sink as they run pretty hot. Rob -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob Stewart Sent: 27 September 2013 04:03 To: Time Nuts Subject: [time-nuts] Case for Rb Standard? I've had the Rb on the shelf for a few days next to a few old 3.5" disk drives, and it suddenly struck me that they're about the same size.  External drive cases and PSUs are "cheap as chips", as they say, so I was wondering how many people are using an external drive case to hold their Rb standard?  Any brand favorites? Bob - AE6RV _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Robert LaJeunesse
Fri, Sep 27, 2013 2:23 PM

Actually the 5.25" drive case seemed like a better choice to me. I picked up an Iomega external optical drive in a plastic case for a few bucks. Hard to get open (hidden snap latches) but the plastic top was easy to machine with a Dremel tool and knife. After making a large rectangular hole in the top I mounted a big honking heatsink to it and, using long screws, fastened the PCB mounted Rb to the heatsink using a thermal gap filler pad. A switching power supply sits in the bottom to the rear. The case front and back had grooves just right for 0.062" PCB stock, so I easily made custom front and rear panels. Rear holds AC power connector & fuse, front has power switch, 2-color LED (Red = on, Red & Green => Yellow = Locked), 10MHz and 1pps BNCs, and a 9-pin D-sub wired for standard RS-232.

Bob LaJeunesse


From: Bob Stewart bob@evoria.net
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Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:03 PM
Subject: [time-nuts] Case for Rb Standard?

I've had the Rb on the shelf for a few days next to a few old 3.5" disk drives, and it suddenly struck me that they're about the same size.  External drive cases and PSUs are "cheap as chips", as they say, so I was wondering how many people are using an external drive case to hold their Rb standard?  Any brand favorites?

Bob - AE6RV


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Actually the 5.25" drive case seemed like a better choice to me. I picked up an Iomega external optical drive in a plastic case for a few bucks. Hard to get open (hidden snap latches) but the plastic top was easy to machine with a Dremel tool and knife. After making a large rectangular hole in the top I mounted a big honking heatsink to it and, using long screws, fastened the PCB mounted Rb to the heatsink using a thermal gap filler pad. A switching power supply sits in the bottom to the rear. The case front and back had grooves just right for 0.062" PCB stock, so I easily made custom front and rear panels. Rear holds AC power connector & fuse, front has power switch, 2-color LED (Red = on, Red & Green => Yellow = Locked), 10MHz and 1pps BNCs, and a 9-pin D-sub wired for standard RS-232. Bob LaJeunesse >________________________________ > From: Bob Stewart <bob@evoria.net> >To: Time Nuts <time-nuts@febo.com> >Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:03 PM >Subject: [time-nuts] Case for Rb Standard? > > >I've had the Rb on the shelf for a few days next to a few old 3.5" disk drives, and it suddenly struck me that they're about the same size.  External drive cases and PSUs are "cheap as chips", as they say, so I was wondering how many people are using an external drive case to hold their Rb standard?  Any brand favorites? > >Bob - AE6RV >_______________________________________________ >time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >and follow the instructions there. > > >
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Tim Shoppa
Fri, Sep 27, 2013 2:48 PM

I am a fan of old stamped sheet metal mini-PC cases, and also a fan of the
clamshell "A/B" switch cases.

Usually the PC case is thin stamped sheet metal but often has a plastic
fascia that goes over the sheet metal. They have lots of ventilation holes,
unlike the clamshell A/B switches which tend to be thicker metal (didn't
need stamping for rigidity) with fewer holes. If I need a DB-25 or DB-9
hole... the A/B serial switches are real attractive because most of them
have that kind of holes and sockets in them already.

Usually I just pick these out of the trash but if need be they are only a
few bucks new.

http://www.b2b-computer-case.com/mini-itx-case/04.htm

http://www.cablesdirect.com/prodimages/CA260X_LR.jpg

Tim N3QE

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Bob Stewart bob@evoria.net wrote:

I've had the Rb on the shelf for a few days next to a few old 3.5" disk
drives, and it suddenly struck me that they're about the same size.
External drive cases and PSUs are "cheap as chips", as they say, so I was
wondering how many people are using an external drive case to hold their Rb
standard?  Any brand favorites?

Bob - AE6RV


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I am a fan of old stamped sheet metal mini-PC cases, and also a fan of the clamshell "A/B" switch cases. Usually the PC case is thin stamped sheet metal but often has a plastic fascia that goes over the sheet metal. They have lots of ventilation holes, unlike the clamshell A/B switches which tend to be thicker metal (didn't need stamping for rigidity) with fewer holes. If I need a DB-25 or DB-9 hole... the A/B serial switches are real attractive because most of them have that kind of holes and sockets in them already. Usually I just pick these out of the trash but if need be they are only a few bucks new. http://www.b2b-computer-case.com/mini-itx-case/04.htm http://www.cablesdirect.com/prodimages/CA260X_LR.jpg Tim N3QE On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Bob Stewart <bob@evoria.net> wrote: > I've had the Rb on the shelf for a few days next to a few old 3.5" disk > drives, and it suddenly struck me that they're about the same size. > External drive cases and PSUs are "cheap as chips", as they say, so I was > wondering how many people are using an external drive case to hold their Rb > standard? Any brand favorites? > > Bob - AE6RV > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
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Collins, Graham
Fri, Sep 27, 2013 4:14 PM

One of my favourite cases for housing projects is to use an HP 37203 HPIB extender. Remove the PC Board and you are left with a power supply that is suitable for many things (or remove if not up the job), plus there is a BNC connector on the back side plus a spot where the GPIB connector poked through which can be repurposed for a D connector suitable for the task at hand.

I pick these up whenever I see them at surplus places, online, or at swaps when the price is right. They can be had at such places for $20 or so but eBay prices tend to often be much higher.

Cheers, Graham ve3gtc

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From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Tim Shoppa
Sent: September-27-13 10:49 AM
To: Bob Stewart; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Case for Rb Standard?

I am a fan of old stamped sheet metal mini-PC cases, and also a fan of the clamshell "A/B" switch cases.

Usually the PC case is thin stamped sheet metal but often has a plastic fascia that goes over the sheet metal. They have lots of ventilation holes, unlike the clamshell A/B switches which tend to be thicker metal (didn't need stamping for rigidity) with fewer holes. If I need a DB-25 or DB-9 hole... the A/B serial switches are real attractive because most of them have that kind of holes and sockets in them already.

Usually I just pick these out of the trash but if need be they are only a few bucks new.

http://www.b2b-computer-case.com/mini-itx-case/04.htm

http://www.cablesdirect.com/prodimages/CA260X_LR.jpg

Tim N3QE

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Bob Stewart bob@evoria.net wrote:

I've had the Rb on the shelf for a few days next to a few old 3.5"
disk drives, and it suddenly struck me that they're about the same size.
External drive cases and PSUs are "cheap as chips", as they say, so I
was wondering how many people are using an external drive case to hold
their Rb standard?  Any brand favorites?

Bob - AE6RV


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One of my favourite cases for housing projects is to use an HP 37203 HPIB extender. Remove the PC Board and you are left with a power supply that is suitable for many things (or remove if not up the job), plus there is a BNC connector on the back side plus a spot where the GPIB connector poked through which can be repurposed for a D connector suitable for the task at hand. I pick these up whenever I see them at surplus places, online, or at swaps when the price is right. They can be had at such places for $20 or so but eBay prices tend to often be much higher. Cheers, Graham ve3gtc -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Tim Shoppa Sent: September-27-13 10:49 AM To: Bob Stewart; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Case for Rb Standard? I am a fan of old stamped sheet metal mini-PC cases, and also a fan of the clamshell "A/B" switch cases. Usually the PC case is thin stamped sheet metal but often has a plastic fascia that goes over the sheet metal. They have lots of ventilation holes, unlike the clamshell A/B switches which tend to be thicker metal (didn't need stamping for rigidity) with fewer holes. If I need a DB-25 or DB-9 hole... the A/B serial switches are real attractive because most of them have that kind of holes and sockets in them already. Usually I just pick these out of the trash but if need be they are only a few bucks new. http://www.b2b-computer-case.com/mini-itx-case/04.htm http://www.cablesdirect.com/prodimages/CA260X_LR.jpg Tim N3QE On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Bob Stewart <bob@evoria.net> wrote: > I've had the Rb on the shelf for a few days next to a few old 3.5" > disk drives, and it suddenly struck me that they're about the same size. > External drive cases and PSUs are "cheap as chips", as they say, so I > was wondering how many people are using an external drive case to hold > their Rb standard? Any brand favorites? > > Bob - AE6RV > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Randy D. Hunt
Fri, Sep 27, 2013 6:25 PM

On 9/27/2013 9:14 AM, Collins, Graham wrote:

One of my favourite cases for housing projects is to use an HP 37203 HPIB extender. Remove the PC Board and you are left with a power supply that is suitable for many things (or remove if not up the job), plus there is a BNC connector on the back side plus a spot where the GPIB connector poked through which can be repurposed for a D connector suitable for the task at hand.

I pick these up whenever I see them at surplus places, online, or at swaps when the price is right. They can be had at such places for $20 or so but eBay prices tend to often be much higher.

Cheers, Graham ve3gtc

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Tim Shoppa
Sent: September-27-13 10:49 AM
To: Bob Stewart; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Case for Rb Standard?

I am a fan of old stamped sheet metal mini-PC cases, and also a fan of the clamshell "A/B" switch cases.

Usually the PC case is thin stamped sheet metal but often has a plastic fascia that goes over the sheet metal. They have lots of ventilation holes, unlike the clamshell A/B switches which tend to be thicker metal (didn't need stamping for rigidity) with fewer holes. If I need a DB-25 or DB-9 hole... the A/B serial switches are real attractive because most of them have that kind of holes and sockets in them already.

Usually I just pick these out of the trash but if need be they are only a few bucks new.

http://www.b2b-computer-case.com/mini-itx-case/04.htm

http://www.cablesdirect.com/prodimages/CA260X_LR.jpg

Tim N3QE

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Bob Stewart bob@evoria.net wrote:

I've had the Rb on the shelf for a few days next to a few old 3.5"
disk drives, and it suddenly struck me that they're about the same size.
External drive cases and PSUs are "cheap as chips", as they say, so I
was wondering how many people are using an external drive case to hold
their Rb standard?  Any brand favorites?

Bob - AE6RV


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Picked up a pair on EBay awhile back for this very purpose.  Paid $20
for them.  I needed a case and PS for a pair of HP attenuators...

Randy, KI6WAS

On 9/27/2013 9:14 AM, Collins, Graham wrote: > One of my favourite cases for housing projects is to use an HP 37203 HPIB extender. Remove the PC Board and you are left with a power supply that is suitable for many things (or remove if not up the job), plus there is a BNC connector on the back side plus a spot where the GPIB connector poked through which can be repurposed for a D connector suitable for the task at hand. > > I pick these up whenever I see them at surplus places, online, or at swaps when the price is right. They can be had at such places for $20 or so but eBay prices tend to often be much higher. > > Cheers, Graham ve3gtc > > > -----Original Message----- > From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Tim Shoppa > Sent: September-27-13 10:49 AM > To: Bob Stewart; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Case for Rb Standard? > > I am a fan of old stamped sheet metal mini-PC cases, and also a fan of the clamshell "A/B" switch cases. > > Usually the PC case is thin stamped sheet metal but often has a plastic fascia that goes over the sheet metal. They have lots of ventilation holes, unlike the clamshell A/B switches which tend to be thicker metal (didn't need stamping for rigidity) with fewer holes. If I need a DB-25 or DB-9 hole... the A/B serial switches are real attractive because most of them have that kind of holes and sockets in them already. > > Usually I just pick these out of the trash but if need be they are only a few bucks new. > > http://www.b2b-computer-case.com/mini-itx-case/04.htm > > http://www.cablesdirect.com/prodimages/CA260X_LR.jpg > > Tim N3QE > > > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Bob Stewart <bob@evoria.net> wrote: > >> I've had the Rb on the shelf for a few days next to a few old 3.5" >> disk drives, and it suddenly struck me that they're about the same size. >> External drive cases and PSUs are "cheap as chips", as they say, so I >> was wondering how many people are using an external drive case to hold >> their Rb standard? Any brand favorites? >> >> Bob - AE6RV >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > Picked up a pair on EBay awhile back for this very purpose. Paid $20 for them. I needed a case and PS for a pair of HP attenuators... Randy, KI6WAS
BS
Bob Stewart
Sat, Sep 28, 2013 2:44 PM

I've actually got my GPSDO in one of these, but there's no ventilation for cooling, so I thought I'd look for something else for the Rb standard.

Bob


From: "Collins, Graham" CollinG@navcanada.ca
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Case for Rb Standard?

One of my favourite cases for housing projects is to use an HP 37203 HPIB extender. Remove the PC Board and you are left with a power supply that is suitable for many things (or remove if not up the job), plus there is a BNC connector on the back side plus a spot where the GPIB connector poked through which can be repurposed for a D connector suitable for the task at hand.

I pick these up whenever I see them at surplus places, online, or at swaps when the price is right. They can be had at such places for $20 or so but eBay prices tend to often be much higher.

Cheers, Graham ve3gtc

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Tim Shoppa
Sent: September-27-13 10:49 AM
To: Bob Stewart; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Case for Rb Standard?

I am a fan of old stamped sheet metal mini-PC cases, and also a fan of the clamshell "A/B" switch cases.

Usually the PC case is thin stamped sheet metal but often has a plastic fascia that goes over the sheet metal. They have lots of ventilation holes, unlike the clamshell A/B switches which tend to be thicker metal (didn't need stamping for rigidity) with fewer holes. If I need a DB-25 or DB-9 hole... the A/B serial switches are real attractive because most of them have that kind of holes and sockets in them already.

Usually I just pick these out of the trash but if need be they are only a few bucks new.

http://www.b2b-computer-case.com/mini-itx-case/04.htm

http://www.cablesdirect.com/prodimages/CA260X_LR.jpg

Tim N3QE

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Bob Stewart bob@evoria.net wrote:

I've had the Rb on the shelf for a few days next to a few old 3.5"
disk drives, and it suddenly struck me that they're about the same size.
External drive cases and PSUs are "cheap as chips", as they say, so I
was wondering how many people are using an external drive case to hold
their Rb standard?  Any brand favorites?

Bob - AE6RV


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I've actually got my GPSDO in one of these, but there's no ventilation for cooling, so I thought I'd look for something else for the Rb standard. Bob >________________________________ > From: "Collins, Graham" <CollinG@navcanada.ca> >To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> >Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:14 AM >Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Case for Rb Standard? > > >One of my favourite cases for housing projects is to use an HP 37203 HPIB extender. Remove the PC Board and you are left with a power supply that is suitable for many things (or remove if not up the job), plus there is a BNC connector on the back side plus a spot where the GPIB connector poked through which can be repurposed for a D connector suitable for the task at hand. > >I pick these up whenever I see them at surplus places, online, or at swaps when the price is right. They can be had at such places for $20 or so but eBay prices tend to often be much higher. > >Cheers, Graham ve3gtc > > >-----Original Message----- >From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Tim Shoppa >Sent: September-27-13 10:49 AM >To: Bob Stewart; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement >Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Case for Rb Standard? > >I am a fan of old stamped sheet metal mini-PC cases, and also a fan of the clamshell "A/B" switch cases. > >Usually the PC case is thin stamped sheet metal but often has a plastic fascia that goes over the sheet metal. They have lots of ventilation holes, unlike the clamshell A/B switches which tend to be thicker metal (didn't need stamping for rigidity) with fewer holes. If I need a DB-25 or DB-9 hole... the A/B serial switches are real attractive because most of them have that kind of holes and sockets in them already. > >Usually I just pick these out of the trash but if need be they are only a few bucks new. > >http://www.b2b-computer-case.com/mini-itx-case/04.htm > >http://www.cablesdirect.com/prodimages/CA260X_LR.jpg > >Tim N3QE > > > > >On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Bob Stewart <bob@evoria.net> wrote: > >> I've had the Rb on the shelf for a few days next to a few old 3.5" >> disk drives, and it suddenly struck me that they're about the same size. >> External drive cases and PSUs are "cheap as chips", as they say, so I >> was wondering how many people are using an external drive case to hold >> their Rb standard?  Any brand favorites? >> >> Bob - AE6RV >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> >_______________________________________________ >time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >and follow the instructions there. >_______________________________________________ >time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >and follow the instructions there. > > >