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Andy Talbot
Tue, Oct 11, 2022 3:58 PM

I have just recovered the old hardware that had been used for the GB3WES
5.29MHz beacon.  I built this beacon in 2004, or thereabouts, using a
Motorola Oncore to determine the timing for the transmission.  The beacon
ran flawlessly and was taken out of service a couple of years ago where the
hardware then sat in the beacon keeper's loft.
Firing it up, I fully expected the ancient GPS module (ICs on it are dated
1997 and 1998) to throw a wobbler and fail to lock up.  To my surprise it
was up and running with a valid fix showing on the NMEA output after about
30 seconds.
Which is appreciably better than all the Ublox modules I use when turned on
from cold.
The Oncore did hae a battery back up which had dropped to 1.5V - so perhaps
this was sufficient to keep the essential stuff alive.  But after being
turned off for two years ...?

Anyway, I was going to chuck it out, being so ancient, but may hang onto it
in case an old Oncore is of use to anyone for legacy maintenance perhaps.

What I haven't checked and must do so, is to see if the date/time are
valid, or 1024 weeks old.  The controller for the beacon only uses time
and GPS status on the NMEA stream, not the date.

Andy
www.g4jnt.com

I have just recovered the old hardware that had been used for the GB3WES 5.29MHz beacon. I built this beacon in 2004, or thereabouts, using a Motorola Oncore to determine the timing for the transmission. The beacon ran flawlessly and was taken out of service a couple of years ago where the hardware then sat in the beacon keeper's loft. Firing it up, I fully expected the ancient GPS module (ICs on it are dated 1997 and 1998) to throw a wobbler and fail to lock up. To my surprise it was up and running with a valid fix showing on the NMEA output after about 30 seconds. Which is appreciably better than all the Ublox modules I use when turned on from cold. The Oncore did hae a battery back up which had dropped to 1.5V - so perhaps this was sufficient to keep the essential stuff alive. But after being turned off for two years ...? Anyway, I was going to chuck it out, being so ancient, but may hang onto it in case an old Oncore is of use to anyone for legacy maintenance perhaps. What I haven't checked and must do so, is to see if the date/time are valid, or 1024 weeks old. The controller for the beacon only uses time and GPS status on the NMEA stream, not the date. Andy www.g4jnt.com
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Clint Jay
Wed, Oct 12, 2022 8:19 AM

1.5V is probably enough to have kept data alive but how much use the data
would have been after 2 years I don't know.

Having said that, I recently powered up a couple of U-Blox modules that had
been packed away for a similar length of time, the Neo 7 locked in under a
minute using a cheap ceramic patch antenna (the inch square type rather
than the pathetic, tiny rectangular thing) but the Neo 6 took an awful lot
longer and was flaky even when locked (though I have my doubts about that
unit, it's got signs of heat damage and has 2 labels, both U-Blox but one
covering another which suggests to me it's a reclaimed part rather than
new).

On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 at 20:37, Andy Talbot via time-nuts <
time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:

I have just recovered the old hardware that had been used for the GB3WES
5.29MHz beacon.  I built this beacon in 2004, or thereabouts, using a
Motorola Oncore to determine the timing for the transmission.  The beacon
ran flawlessly and was taken out of service a couple of years ago where the
hardware then sat in the beacon keeper's loft.
Firing it up, I fully expected the ancient GPS module (ICs on it are dated
1997 and 1998) to throw a wobbler and fail to lock up.  To my surprise it
was up and running with a valid fix showing on the NMEA output after about
30 seconds.
Which is appreciably better than all the Ublox modules I use when turned on
from cold.
The Oncore did hae a battery back up which had dropped to 1.5V - so perhaps
this was sufficient to keep the essential stuff alive.  But after being
turned off for two years ...?

Anyway, I was going to chuck it out, being so ancient, but may hang onto it
in case an old Oncore is of use to anyone for legacy maintenance perhaps.

What I haven't checked and must do so, is to see if the date/time are
valid, or 1024 weeks old.  The controller for the beacon only uses time
and GPS status on the NMEA stream, not the date.

Andy
www.g4jnt.com


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1.5V is probably enough to have kept data alive but how much use the data would have been after 2 years I don't know. Having said that, I recently powered up a couple of U-Blox modules that had been packed away for a similar length of time, the Neo 7 locked in under a minute using a cheap ceramic patch antenna (the inch square type rather than the pathetic, tiny rectangular thing) but the Neo 6 took an awful lot longer and was flaky even when locked (though I have my doubts about that unit, it's got signs of heat damage and has 2 labels, both U-Blox but one covering another which suggests to me it's a reclaimed part rather than new). On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 at 20:37, Andy Talbot via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > I have just recovered the old hardware that had been used for the GB3WES > 5.29MHz beacon. I built this beacon in 2004, or thereabouts, using a > Motorola Oncore to determine the timing for the transmission. The beacon > ran flawlessly and was taken out of service a couple of years ago where the > hardware then sat in the beacon keeper's loft. > Firing it up, I fully expected the ancient GPS module (ICs on it are dated > 1997 and 1998) to throw a wobbler and fail to lock up. To my surprise it > was up and running with a valid fix showing on the NMEA output after about > 30 seconds. > Which is appreciably better than all the Ublox modules I use when turned on > from cold. > The Oncore did hae a battery back up which had dropped to 1.5V - so perhaps > this was sufficient to keep the essential stuff alive. But after being > turned off for two years ...? > > Anyway, I was going to chuck it out, being so ancient, but may hang onto it > in case an old Oncore is of use to anyone for legacy maintenance perhaps. > > What I haven't checked and must do so, is to see if the date/time are > valid, or 1024 weeks old. The controller for the beacon only uses time > and GPS status on the NMEA stream, not the date. > > > Andy > www.g4jnt.com > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > -- Clint. M0UAW IO83 *No trees were harmed in the sending of this mail. However, a large number of electrons were greatly inconvenienced.*