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Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

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SAIDJACK@aol.com
Tue, Aug 28, 2007 9:36 PM

In a message dated 8/28/2007 13:41:24 Pacific Daylight Time, rexa@sonic.net
writes:

Here's a link to the resulting png from hpgs
ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/rexa/E1938A/E1938_asdrawb.png
(ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/rexa/E1938A/E1938_asdrawb.png)
Anybody here that can generate PDF's with 300 or more DPI?

PS, HPGL, PNG, all not standard anymore as this long thread is showing...
JPG, PDF, HTML is the name of the game these days :)

I can generate PDF's from PS files, if that helps. I can also render PDF's
into raster-files if needed.

Thanks,
bye,
Said

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In a message dated 8/28/2007 13:41:24 Pacific Daylight Time, rexa@sonic.net writes: Here's a link to the resulting png from hpgs _ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/rexa/E1938A/E1938_asdrawb.png_ (ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/rexa/E1938A/E1938_asdrawb.png) Anybody here that can generate PDF's with 300 or more DPI? PS, HPGL, PNG, all not standard anymore as this long thread is showing... JPG, PDF, HTML is the name of the game these days :) I can generate PDF's from PS files, if that helps. I can also render PDF's into raster-files if needed. Thanks, bye, Said ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
BG
Björn Gabrielsson
Tue, Aug 28, 2007 9:55 PM

Find attached an FTS1200 efc vs FRS-C plot. Btw... GSview is an excellent
viewer for PS, EPS and some PDF.

--

Björn

On Tue, August 28, 2007 23:36, SAIDJACK@aol.com said:

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In a message dated 8/28/2007 13:41:24 Pacific Daylight Time,
rexa@sonic.net
writes:

Here's a link to the resulting png from hpgs
ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/rexa/E1938A/E1938_asdrawb.png
(ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/rexa/E1938A/E1938_asdrawb.png)
Anybody here that can generate PDF's with 300 or more DPI?

PS, HPGL, PNG, all not standard anymore as this long thread is showing...
JPG, PDF, HTML is the name of the game these days :)

I can generate PDF's from PS files, if that helps. I can also render PDF's
into raster-files if needed.

Thanks,
bye,
Said

************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL
at
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Find attached an FTS1200 efc vs FRS-C plot. Btw... GSview is an excellent viewer for PS, EPS and some PDF. -- Björn On Tue, August 28, 2007 23:36, SAIDJACK@aol.com said: > ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false > Errors-To: time-nuts-bounces+bg=lysator.liu.se@febo.com RETRY > > In a message dated 8/28/2007 13:41:24 Pacific Daylight Time, > rexa@sonic.net > writes: > > > Here's a link to the resulting png from hpgs > _ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/rexa/E1938A/E1938_asdrawb.png_ > (ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/rexa/E1938A/E1938_asdrawb.png) > Anybody here that can generate PDF's with 300 or more DPI? > > PS, HPGL, PNG, all not standard anymore as this long thread is showing... > JPG, PDF, HTML is the name of the game these days :) > > I can generate PDF's from PS files, if that helps. I can also render PDF's > into raster-files if needed. > > Thanks, > bye, > Said > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL > at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
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Bill Jones, K8CU
Tue, Aug 28, 2007 10:06 PM

Anybody here that can generate PDF's with 300 or more DPI?

Hello Said,

Yes, no problem. Please direct me to the URL for the schematic in hpgl
format. I can't seem to locate it.

However, I did find the E1938 assembly drawing and have posted an
appropriate pdf here:
http://www.realhamradio.com/E1938_asdrawb.pdf

I will be happy to post a high resolution schematic when I locate the hpgl
source. The schematic may be more comfortable to view by simply plotting
directly to a D-size plotter, but the pdf will work OK if you don't mind the
limitations of your screen size.

Thanks,

Bill, K8CU

> Anybody here that can generate PDF's with 300 or more DPI? > Hello Said, Yes, no problem. Please direct me to the URL for the schematic in hpgl format. I can't seem to locate it. However, I did find the E1938 assembly drawing and have posted an appropriate pdf here: http://www.realhamradio.com/E1938_asdrawb.pdf I will be happy to post a high resolution schematic when I locate the hpgl source. The schematic may be more comfortable to view by simply plotting directly to a D-size plotter, but the pdf will work OK if you don't mind the limitations of your screen size. Thanks, Bill, K8CU
R
Rex
Tue, Aug 28, 2007 10:06 PM

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:36:44 EDT, SAIDJACK@aol.com wrote:

JPG, PDF, HTML is the name of the game these days :)

I don't completely agree.

JPG is not good for line drawings like schematics. A lossless
compression like GIF or PNG is much better. HTML by itself doesn't
support images (needs imbedded jpg, gif, png, etc.) and has limited text
formatting. I hate it when the only availble document format is
html-based.

PDF is ok, but hard to modify without spending money (like to split a
schematic between multiple 8.5 x 11 pages for printing.)

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:36:44 EDT, SAIDJACK@aol.com wrote: >JPG, PDF, HTML is the name of the game these days :) > I don't completely agree. JPG is not good for line drawings like schematics. A lossless compression like GIF or PNG is much better. HTML by itself doesn't support images (needs imbedded jpg, gif, png, etc.) and has limited text formatting. I hate it when the only availble document format is html-based. PDF is ok, but hard to modify without spending money (like to split a schematic between multiple 8.5 x 11 pages for printing.)
MD
Magnus Danielson
Tue, Aug 28, 2007 10:22 PM

From: SAIDJACK@aol.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:36:44 EDT
Message-ID: bd5.15a05e67.3405ef6c@aol.com

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In a message dated 8/28/2007 13:41:24 Pacific Daylight Time, rexa@sonic.net
writes:

Here's a link to the resulting png from hpgs
ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/rexa/E1938A/E1938_asdrawb.png
(ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/rexa/E1938A/E1938_asdrawb.png)
Anybody here that can generate PDF's with 300 or more DPI?

Where's the problem??? PDF as such is really not DPI limited, raster formats in
it is however... but a good HPGL to PS to PDF conversion would still only be
vectors...

PS, HPGL, PNG, all not standard anymore as this long thread is showing...
JPG, PDF, HTML is the name of the game these days :)

Said, you have your timing screwed up here. PNG is definitly much newer than
JPG. PNG is certainly standard and viewers are plentiful (web-browsers
anyone?). Hell, even GIF87 still works!!! HTML is also older than PNG. I've
seen PNG progress from the GIF2000 proposal after I have been teaching HTML and
JPG to the students.

Doing such incorrect timing errors on a time-list? Can't avoid pointing them
out.

HPGL is an old format, that is true. Still makes alot of wheels turn, but maybe
not as generic exchange format these days.

PS is still a very valid format, but it is not as neat as PDF and thankfully
PDF is now more widely spread, but it has been a major headache before.

Oh, and HTML is old as hell now, you should sing the prais of XHTML and XML
these days. It is only old farts like myself that still hack HTML by hand.
My webpages layout makes stone-age feel recent and as a fresh wind.

PS. I envy you guys for having the E1938A to fool around with!!!

Cheers,
Magnus - running old?

From: SAIDJACK@aol.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:36:44 EDT Message-ID: <bd5.15a05e67.3405ef6c@aol.com> > ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false > Errors-To: time-nuts-bounces+magnus=rubidium.dyndns.org@febo.com RETRY > > In a message dated 8/28/2007 13:41:24 Pacific Daylight Time, rexa@sonic.net > writes: > > > Here's a link to the resulting png from hpgs > _ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/rexa/E1938A/E1938_asdrawb.png_ > (ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/rexa/E1938A/E1938_asdrawb.png) > Anybody here that can generate PDF's with 300 or more DPI? Where's the problem??? PDF as such is really not DPI limited, raster formats in it is however... but a good HPGL to PS to PDF conversion would still only be vectors... > PS, HPGL, PNG, all not standard anymore as this long thread is showing... > JPG, PDF, HTML is the name of the game these days :) Said, you have your timing screwed up here. PNG is definitly much newer than JPG. PNG is certainly standard and viewers are plentiful (web-browsers anyone?). Hell, even GIF87 still works!!! HTML is also older than PNG. I've seen PNG progress from the GIF2000 proposal after I have been teaching HTML and JPG to the students. Doing such incorrect timing errors on a time-list? Can't avoid pointing them out. HPGL is an old format, that is true. Still makes alot of wheels turn, but maybe not as generic exchange format these days. PS is still a very valid format, but it is not as neat as PDF and thankfully PDF is now more widely spread, but it has been a major headache before. Oh, and HTML is old as hell now, you should sing the prais of XHTML and XML these days. It is only old farts like myself that still hack HTML by hand. My webpages layout makes stone-age feel recent and as a fresh wind. PS. I envy you guys for having the E1938A to fool around with!!! Cheers, Magnus - running old?
DJ
Didier Juges
Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:39 AM

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com
[mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Magnus Danielson
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:22 PM
To: time-nuts@febo.com; SAIDJACK@aol.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

...

XHTML and XML these days. It is only old farts like myself
that still hack HTML by hand.
My webpages layout makes stone-age feel recent and as a fresh wind.

Magnus, you are not the only one :-)
www.ko4bb.com, all htmlized by hand...

Pages load quickly even through a modem...

Didier KO4BB

> -----Original Message----- > From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com > [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Magnus Danielson > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:22 PM > To: time-nuts@febo.com; SAIDJACK@aol.com > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page > ... > XHTML and XML these days. It is only old farts like myself > that still hack HTML by hand. > My webpages layout makes stone-age feel recent and as a fresh wind. Magnus, you are not the only one :-) www.ko4bb.com, all htmlized by hand... Pages load quickly even through a modem... Didier KO4BB
DJ
Didier Juges
Wed, Aug 29, 2007 12:43 AM

Then you obviously do not know PDF-XChange viewer (you are forgiven, I did
not know until last week's review in PCWorld).
PDF-XChange Viewer lets you edit/markup pdfs and it is free and fast, highly
recommended.

I do not know if it can be used to split/merge, but for free, the markup
capability is great.

Didier KO4BB

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com
[mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Rex
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:06 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:36:44 EDT, SAIDJACK@aol.com wrote:

JPG, PDF, HTML is the name of the game these days :)

I don't completely agree.

JPG is not good for line drawings like schematics. A lossless
compression like GIF or PNG is much better. HTML by itself
doesn't support images (needs imbedded jpg, gif, png, etc.)
and has limited text formatting. I hate it when the only
availble document format is html-based.

PDF is ok, but hard to modify without spending money (like to
split a schematic between multiple 8.5 x 11 pages for printing.)


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Then you obviously do not know PDF-XChange viewer (you are forgiven, I did not know until last week's review in PCWorld). PDF-XChange Viewer lets you edit/markup pdfs and it is free and fast, highly recommended. I do not know if it can be used to split/merge, but for free, the markup capability is great. Didier KO4BB > -----Original Message----- > From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com > [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Rex > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:06 PM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page > > On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:36:44 EDT, SAIDJACK@aol.com wrote: > > >JPG, PDF, HTML is the name of the game these days :) > > > > I don't completely agree. > > JPG is not good for line drawings like schematics. A lossless > compression like GIF or PNG is much better. HTML by itself > doesn't support images (needs imbedded jpg, gif, png, etc.) > and has limited text formatting. I hate it when the only > availble document format is html-based. > > PDF is ok, but hard to modify without spending money (like to > split a schematic between multiple 8.5 x 11 pages for printing.) > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, > go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
MD
Magnus Danielson
Wed, Aug 29, 2007 1:41 AM

From: "Didier Juges" didier@cox.net
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:39:25 -0500
Message-ID: 048501c7e9d5$0d82f2e0$6501a8c0@didierhp

www.ko4bb.com, all htmlized by hand...

Yes, but you have decorations like background picture and animated images.
I skipped those and the only advanced feature I've tried is some MathML for
the hyperfine splitting page.

Pages load quickly even through a modem...

All creators of overloaded turbo-graphic on their pages should be sentenced to
a month of 300 baud modem only access.

Cheers,
Magnus

From: "Didier Juges" <didier@cox.net> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:39:25 -0500 Message-ID: <048501c7e9d5$0d82f2e0$6501a8c0@didierhp> > www.ko4bb.com, all htmlized by hand... Yes, but you have decorations like background picture and animated images. I skipped those and the only advanced feature I've tried is some MathML for the hyperfine splitting page. > Pages load quickly even through a modem... All creators of overloaded turbo-graphic on their pages should be sentenced to a month of 300 baud modem only access. Cheers, Magnus
RK
Rob Kimberley
Wed, Aug 29, 2007 8:17 AM

Adobe Acrobat will convert most file types..

PNG still widely used.

:-)

Rob K

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of SAIDJACK@aol.com
Sent: 28 August 2007 22:37
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

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In a message dated 8/28/2007 13:41:24 Pacific Daylight Time, rexa@sonic.net
writes:

Here's a link to the resulting png from hpgs
ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/rexa/E1938A/E1938_asdrawb.png
(ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/rexa/E1938A/E1938_asdrawb.png)
Anybody here that can generate PDF's with 300 or more DPI?

PS, HPGL, PNG, all not standard anymore as this long thread is showing...
JPG, PDF, HTML is the name of the game these days :)

I can generate PDF's from PS files, if that helps. I can also render PDF's
into raster-files if needed.

Thanks,
bye,
Said

************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL
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Adobe Acrobat will convert most file types.. PNG still widely used. :-) Rob K -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of SAIDJACK@aol.com Sent: 28 August 2007 22:37 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: time-nuts-bounces+rk=timing-consultants.com@febo.com RETRY In a message dated 8/28/2007 13:41:24 Pacific Daylight Time, rexa@sonic.net writes: Here's a link to the resulting png from hpgs _ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/rexa/E1938A/E1938_asdrawb.png_ (ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/rexa/E1938A/E1938_asdrawb.png) Anybody here that can generate PDF's with 300 or more DPI? PS, HPGL, PNG, all not standard anymore as this long thread is showing... JPG, PDF, HTML is the name of the game these days :) I can generate PDF's from PS files, if that helps. I can also render PDF's into raster-files if needed. Thanks, bye, Said ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.