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Defaltated Inflatable - Foam Fill ??

J
jag@vcn.bc.ca
Fri, Apr 25, 2008 9:11 PM

Hi All

My AquaPro 9' aluminum V bottom inflatable is 10 years old. A glued seam
has let go as well as a seam between the pontoons. It seems it has reached
the end of its' life. If I had a place to put it indoors I would have a go
at gluing it back together.

An other way to perhaps give it another chance is fill the pontoons with
two-part foam. I believe I have seen this discussed here before but can't
locate it in the archives. Seems like a lot to toss in the dumpster. Any
thoughts?

Or suggestions on a replacement. I'm pretty sure I would want to stick
with an inflatable - weight being the main consideration - launching and
hauling up on the weaver davits at its' weight of ~ 65 lbs is not too bad,
much heavier and I would want some assistance.

BTW the mother ship is 32' NT.

Thanks
John

Hi All My AquaPro 9' aluminum V bottom inflatable is 10 years old. A glued seam has let go as well as a seam between the pontoons. It seems it has reached the end of its' life. If I had a place to put it indoors I would have a go at gluing it back together. An other way to perhaps give it another chance is fill the pontoons with two-part foam. I believe I have seen this discussed here before but can't locate it in the archives. Seems like a lot to toss in the dumpster. Any thoughts? Or suggestions on a replacement. I'm pretty sure I would want to stick with an inflatable - weight being the main consideration - launching and hauling up on the weaver davits at its' weight of ~ 65 lbs is not too bad, much heavier and I would want some assistance. BTW the mother ship is 32' NT. Thanks John
JW
Joel Wilkins
Sun, Apr 27, 2008 12:44 AM

Just so happens I investigated doing the foam fill thing a while back. I talked to the guy at our local fiberglassing shop and he gave me a few things to think about.

First, his store sells 2 pound (per cu ft), 4 lb and 8 lb. The prices were not exactly cheap and would have been a few hundred dollars to completely fill them with foam. But....he said a trick you could use is to use empty containers (fairly non-compressible) or other filler to reduce amount of foam used.

Second, anything less than the 4 lb would dent fairly easily. Even the 4 will dent too and that will leave space between the foam and RIB material. Probably an undesireable effect.

Third, if you do decide to do it, pour in lifts. as soon as the first lift has crusted over then the second lift can be poured. If too much is poured at once, the crust forms and only place for foam to expand is outward...causing lumpy RIB.

So, with all that in mind and realizing that I'd have to cut a large hole in top of rib to get the pour in...I decided against it..even though the dead RIB was free to me.

YMMV
Joel Wilkins
Miss Magoo
C-45, #98
S. Pasadena, FL

jag@vcn.bc.ca wrote:
Hi All

My AquaPro 9' aluminum V bottom inflatable is 10 years old. A glued seam
has let go as well as a seam between the pontoons. It seems it has reached
the end of its' life. If I had a place to put it indoors I would have a go
at gluing it back together.

An other way to perhaps give it another chance is fill the pontoons with
two-part foam. I believe I have seen this discussed here before but can't
locate it in the archives. Seems like a lot to toss in the dumpster. Any
thoughts?

Or suggestions on a replacement. I'm pretty sure I would want to stick
with an inflatable - weight being the main consideration - launching and
hauling up on the weaver davits at its' weight of ~ 65 lbs is not too bad,
much heavier and I would want some assistance.

BTW the mother ship is 32' NT.

Thanks
John


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Just so happens I investigated doing the foam fill thing a while back. I talked to the guy at our local fiberglassing shop and he gave me a few things to think about. First, his store sells 2 pound (per cu ft), 4 lb and 8 lb. The prices were not exactly cheap and would have been a few hundred dollars to completely fill them with foam. But....he said a trick you could use is to use empty containers (fairly non-compressible) or other filler to reduce amount of foam used. Second, anything less than the 4 lb would dent fairly easily. Even the 4 will dent too and that will leave space between the foam and RIB material. Probably an undesireable effect. Third, if you do decide to do it, pour in lifts. as soon as the first lift has crusted over then the second lift can be poured. If too much is poured at once, the crust forms and only place for foam to expand is outward...causing lumpy RIB. So, with all that in mind and realizing that I'd have to cut a large hole in top of rib to get the pour in...I decided against it..even though the dead RIB was free to me. YMMV Joel Wilkins Miss Magoo C-45, #98 S. Pasadena, FL jag@vcn.bc.ca wrote: Hi All My AquaPro 9' aluminum V bottom inflatable is 10 years old. A glued seam has let go as well as a seam between the pontoons. It seems it has reached the end of its' life. If I had a place to put it indoors I would have a go at gluing it back together. An other way to perhaps give it another chance is fill the pontoons with two-part foam. I believe I have seen this discussed here before but can't locate it in the archives. Seems like a lot to toss in the dumpster. Any thoughts? Or suggestions on a replacement. I'm pretty sure I would want to stick with an inflatable - weight being the main consideration - launching and hauling up on the weaver davits at its' weight of ~ 65 lbs is not too bad, much heavier and I would want some assistance. BTW the mother ship is 32' NT. Thanks John _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change email address, etc) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
J
jag@vcn.bc.ca
Sun, Apr 27, 2008 5:02 AM

Joel

Thanks.  I haven't used the two part foam for quite awhile and it wasn't
cheap then and with the oil prices today it probably would be quite an
expensive undertaking.

I had not thought about the "denting" possibility.

The seam that came undone is at the bow and probably is an easy fix.
However, I would not be comfortable knowing I had only one air chamber. My
latest thought is to cut a flap open on the other side of the baffle to
try to seal it i.e. the leak between the pontoons and then put a patch
over the flap.

Just to toss it in the dumpster seems like such a waste BUT I have to be
able to trust it as well.

John

Just so happens I investigated doing the foam fill thing a while back. I
talked to the guy at our local fiberglassing shop and he gave me a few
things to think about.

First, his store sells 2 pound (per cu ft), 4 lb and 8 lb. The prices
were not exactly cheap and would have been a few hundred dollars to
completely fill them with foam. But....he said a trick you could use is
to use empty containers (fairly non-compressible) or other filler to
reduce amount of foam used.

Second, anything less than the 4 lb would dent fairly easily. Even the 4
will dent too and that will leave space between the foam and RIB
material. Probably an undesireable effect.

Third, if you do decide to do it, pour in lifts. as soon as the first
lift has crusted over then the second lift can be poured. If too much is
poured at once, the crust forms and only place for foam to expand is
outward...causing lumpy RIB.

So, with all that in mind and realizing that I'd have to cut a large
hole in top of rib to get the pour in...I decided against it..even
though the dead RIB was free to me.

YMMV
Joel Wilkins
Miss Magoo
C-45, #98
S. Pasadena, FL

jag@vcn.bc.ca wrote:
Hi All

My AquaPro 9' aluminum V bottom inflatable is 10 years old. A glued seam
has let go as well as a seam between the pontoons. It seems it has reached
the end of its' life. If I had a place to put it indoors I would have a go
at gluing it back together.

An other way to perhaps give it another chance is fill the pontoons with
two-part foam. I believe I have seen this discussed here before but can't
locate it in the archives. Seems like a lot to toss in the dumpster. Any
thoughts?

Or suggestions on a replacement. I'm pretty sure I would want to stick
with an inflatable - weight being the main consideration - launching and
hauling up on the weaver davits at its' weight of ~ 65 lbs is not too bad,
much heavier and I would want some assistance.

BTW the mother ship is 32' NT.

Thanks
John

Joel Thanks. I haven't used the two part foam for quite awhile and it wasn't cheap then and with the oil prices today it probably would be quite an expensive undertaking. I had not thought about the "denting" possibility. The seam that came undone is at the bow and probably is an easy fix. However, I would not be comfortable knowing I had only one air chamber. My latest thought is to cut a flap open on the other side of the baffle to try to seal it i.e. the leak between the pontoons and then put a patch over the flap. Just to toss it in the dumpster seems like such a waste BUT I have to be able to trust it as well. John > Just so happens I investigated doing the foam fill thing a while back. I > talked to the guy at our local fiberglassing shop and he gave me a few > things to think about. > > First, his store sells 2 pound (per cu ft), 4 lb and 8 lb. The prices > were not exactly cheap and would have been a few hundred dollars to > completely fill them with foam. But....he said a trick you could use is > to use empty containers (fairly non-compressible) or other filler to > reduce amount of foam used. > > Second, anything less than the 4 lb would dent fairly easily. Even the 4 > will dent too and that will leave space between the foam and RIB > material. Probably an undesireable effect. > > Third, if you do decide to do it, pour in lifts. as soon as the first > lift has crusted over then the second lift can be poured. If too much is > poured at once, the crust forms and only place for foam to expand is > outward...causing lumpy RIB. > > So, with all that in mind and realizing that I'd have to cut a large > hole in top of rib to get the pour in...I decided against it..even > though the dead RIB was free to me. > > YMMV > Joel Wilkins > Miss Magoo > C-45, #98 > S. Pasadena, FL > > jag@vcn.bc.ca wrote: > Hi All > > My AquaPro 9' aluminum V bottom inflatable is 10 years old. A glued seam > has let go as well as a seam between the pontoons. It seems it has reached > the end of its' life. If I had a place to put it indoors I would have a go > at gluing it back together. > > An other way to perhaps give it another chance is fill the pontoons with > two-part foam. I believe I have seen this discussed here before but can't > locate it in the archives. Seems like a lot to toss in the dumpster. Any > thoughts? > > Or suggestions on a replacement. I'm pretty sure I would want to stick > with an inflatable - weight being the main consideration - launching and > hauling up on the weaver davits at its' weight of ~ 65 lbs is not too bad, > much heavier and I would want some assistance. > > BTW the mother ship is 32' NT. > > > Thanks > John