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Dave Cooper

Thu, Aug 16, 2007 2:31 PM

Not to sure that I'd drill any hole in my anchor. I have seen CQR, Delta's
and just about all other types with bent shanks due to side loading in bad
weather. The manufacturer of some provides holes for pinning purposes...no
problem using them.
Drilling a 1" hole....hmmmmmmmm. OTOH perhaps you drilled it in an area that
doesn't ever get loaded. We always use a rope on ours even tho we have a pin
that fits thru the factory hole in our Delta.

Just a thought to keep you from sleeping too soundly in that 35 kts wind
shift in the anchorage ;-)

In my former life on those wind powered boats we always removed the anchor
before heading offshore. Keeping the front of the boat clean for big waves
to pass thru, over and around was always in my best interest ;-)

As always YMMV....

Dave & Nancy
Swan Song
Roughwater 58

<scott - " Drilled primary Anchor to accept retaining pin for bow pulpit"> Not to sure that I'd drill any hole in my anchor. I have seen CQR, Delta's and just about all other types with bent shanks due to side loading in bad weather. The manufacturer of some provides holes for pinning purposes...no problem using them. Drilling a 1" hole....hmmmmmmmm. OTOH perhaps you drilled it in an area that doesn't ever get loaded. We always use a rope on ours even tho we have a pin that fits thru the factory hole in our Delta. Just a thought to keep you from sleeping too soundly in that 35 kts wind shift in the anchorage ;-) In my former life on those wind powered boats we always removed the anchor before heading offshore. Keeping the front of the boat clean for big waves to pass thru, over and around was always in my best interest ;-) As always YMMV.... Dave & Nancy Swan Song Roughwater 58

SB

Scott Bulger

Thu, Aug 16, 2007 4:53 PM

Well, nice thing is it's my anchor and I get to drill it if I think it needs
to be drilled. If I blow down on SwanSong during that wind change I'll be
right there to write you a check for repairs and buy you a cold one.
(Unlike the sailboat FLASH that's hit me twice in my marina).

I appreciate the feedback, one thing to consider is so few people contribute
to forums like this because it seems if your willing to publicize your
thoughts and ideas there is always someone to debate them and insinuate your
stupid. Dave has immense credibility because of his experience (which I
lack). Also Dave does a good job of sharing his perspective without making
the other party feel attacked. Email is a challenging forum for this kind
of exchange because it's so easy to misread a comment and overreact to it.
Perhaps if I'd posted a picture of the anchor along with the posting it
would have been more valuable? Maybe I'll find a place to put a picture.
Anyway, I do appreciate the feedback, I also believe drilling the anchor was
the right thing to do, but I'm sure I'll hear for a week what a dumb ass I
am :)

Thanks!

Scott Bulger, Alanui, N40II, Seattle WA

Oh, PS, if that anchor bites well enough in the bottom to bend the shank
where I drilled it, I'm going to buy stock in the company because it's one
hell of an anchor! Oh wait, I think they went out of business? Uh oh!
g Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World Productions, formerly
known as Trawler World Productions.

Well, nice thing is it's my anchor and I get to drill it if I think it needs to be drilled. If I blow down on SwanSong during that wind change I'll be right there to write you a check for repairs and buy you a cold one. (Unlike the sailboat FLASH that's hit me twice in my marina). I appreciate the feedback, one thing to consider is so few people contribute to forums like this because it seems if your willing to publicize your thoughts and ideas there is always someone to debate them and insinuate your stupid. Dave has immense credibility because of his experience (which I lack). Also Dave does a good job of sharing his perspective without making the other party feel attacked. Email is a challenging forum for this kind of exchange because it's so easy to misread a comment and overreact to it. Perhaps if I'd posted a picture of the anchor along with the posting it would have been more valuable? Maybe I'll find a place to put a picture. Anyway, I do appreciate the feedback, I also believe drilling the anchor was the right thing to do, but I'm sure I'll hear for a week what a dumb ass I am :) Thanks! Scott Bulger, Alanui, N40II, Seattle WA Oh, PS, if that anchor bites well enough in the bottom to bend the shank where I drilled it, I'm going to buy stock in the company because it's one hell of an anchor! Oh wait, I think they went out of business? Uh oh! g Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World Productions, formerly known as Trawler World Productions.

JM

John Marshall

Thu, Aug 16, 2007 4:57 PM

Scott,
Are you still organizing a get-together in Neah Bay at the end of
the month for Northwest boats going south? Might be nice to have an
informal get together of passagemakers there, whether we are going
south or not.

John Marshall
N5520-Serendipity

On Aug 16, 2007, at 9:53 AM, Scott Bulger wrote:

Well, nice thing is it's my anchor and I get to drill it if I think
it needs
to be drilled. If I blow down on SwanSong during that wind change
I'll be
right there to write you a check for repairs and buy you a cold one.
(Unlike the sailboat FLASH that's hit me twice in my marina).

I appreciate the feedback, one thing to consider is so few people
contribute
to forums like this because it seems if your willing to publicize your
thoughts and ideas there is always someone to debate them and
insinuate your
stupid. Dave has immense credibility because of his experience
(which I
lack). Also Dave does a good job of sharing his perspective
without making
the other party feel attacked. Email is a challenging forum for
this kind
of exchange because it's so easy to misread a comment and overreact
to it.
Perhaps if I'd posted a picture of the anchor along with the
posting it
would have been more valuable? Maybe I'll find a place to put a
picture.
Anyway, I do appreciate the feedback, I also believe drilling the
anchor was
the right thing to do, but I'm sure I'll hear for a week what a
dumb ass I
am :)

Thanks!

Scott Bulger, Alanui, N40II, Seattle WA

Oh, PS, if that anchor bites well enough in the bottom to bend the
shank
where I drilled it, I'm going to buy stock in the company because
it's one
hell of an anchor! Oh wait, I think they went out of business? Uh
oh!
g Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World Productions,
formerly
known as Trawler World Productions.

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Scott, Are you still organizing a get-together in Neah Bay at the end of the month for Northwest boats going south? Might be nice to have an informal get together of passagemakers there, whether we are going south or not. John Marshall N5520-Serendipity On Aug 16, 2007, at 9:53 AM, Scott Bulger wrote: > Well, nice thing is it's my anchor and I get to drill it if I think > it needs > to be drilled. If I blow down on SwanSong during that wind change > I'll be > right there to write you a check for repairs and buy you a cold one. > (Unlike the sailboat FLASH that's hit me twice in my marina). > > I appreciate the feedback, one thing to consider is so few people > contribute > to forums like this because it seems if your willing to publicize your > thoughts and ideas there is always someone to debate them and > insinuate your > stupid. Dave has immense credibility because of his experience > (which I > lack). Also Dave does a good job of sharing his perspective > without making > the other party feel attacked. Email is a challenging forum for > this kind > of exchange because it's so easy to misread a comment and overreact > to it. > Perhaps if I'd posted a picture of the anchor along with the > posting it > would have been more valuable? Maybe I'll find a place to put a > picture. > Anyway, I do appreciate the feedback, I also believe drilling the > anchor was > the right thing to do, but I'm sure I'll hear for a week what a > dumb ass I > am :) > > Thanks! > > Scott Bulger, Alanui, N40II, Seattle WA > > Oh, PS, if that anchor bites well enough in the bottom to bend the > shank > where I drilled it, I'm going to buy stock in the company because > it's one > hell of an anchor! Oh wait, I think they went out of business? Uh > oh! > g Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World Productions, > formerly > known as Trawler World Productions. > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power > > To unsubscribe send email to > passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com with the word > UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. > > Passagemaking Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World > Productions, formerly known as Trawler World Productions.

MT

Mark Tilden

Fri, Aug 17, 2007 6:53 AM

Scott:

I'm delivering Bob Klein's Selene 53 "Kasekuchen" down the coast, leaving
from Gig Harbor sometime around the 5th of September (weather permitting).
If you guys are headed down in that time frame, let me know. Perhaps we can
just touch base on the trip down.

Best Regards,
Capt. Mark Tilden

-----Original Message-----
From: passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com
[mailto:passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of
Scott Bulger
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:53 AM
To: 'Passagemaking Under Power List'
Subject: Re: [PUP] Nordhavn 40 improvements for FUBAR and beyond

Well, nice thing is it's my anchor and I get to drill it if I think it needs
to be drilled. If I blow down on SwanSong during that wind change I'll be
right there to write you a check for repairs and buy you a cold one.
(Unlike the sailboat FLASH that's hit me twice in my marina).

I appreciate the feedback, one thing to consider is so few people contribute
to forums like this because it seems if your willing to publicize your
thoughts and ideas there is always someone to debate them and insinuate your
stupid. Dave has immense credibility because of his experience (which I
lack). Also Dave does a good job of sharing his perspective without making
the other party feel attacked. Email is a challenging forum for this kind
of exchange because it's so easy to misread a comment and overreact to it.
Perhaps if I'd posted a picture of the anchor along with the posting it
would have been more valuable? Maybe I'll find a place to put a picture.
Anyway, I do appreciate the feedback, I also believe drilling the anchor was
the right thing to do, but I'm sure I'll hear for a week what a dumb ass I
am :)

Thanks!

Scott Bulger, Alanui, N40II, Seattle WA

Oh, PS, if that anchor bites well enough in the bottom to bend the shank
where I drilled it, I'm going to buy stock in the company because it's one
hell of an anchor! Oh wait, I think they went out of business? Uh oh!
g Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World Productions, formerly
known as Trawler World Productions.

http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power

To unsubscribe send email to
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Passagemaking Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World Productions,
formerly known as Trawler World Productions.

Scott: I'm delivering Bob Klein's Selene 53 "Kasekuchen" down the coast, leaving from Gig Harbor sometime around the 5th of September (weather permitting). If you guys are headed down in that time frame, let me know. Perhaps we can just touch base on the trip down. Best Regards, Capt. Mark Tilden -----Original Message----- From: passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Scott Bulger Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:53 AM To: 'Passagemaking Under Power List' Subject: Re: [PUP] Nordhavn 40 improvements for FUBAR and beyond Well, nice thing is it's my anchor and I get to drill it if I think it needs to be drilled. If I blow down on SwanSong during that wind change I'll be right there to write you a check for repairs and buy you a cold one. (Unlike the sailboat FLASH that's hit me twice in my marina). I appreciate the feedback, one thing to consider is so few people contribute to forums like this because it seems if your willing to publicize your thoughts and ideas there is always someone to debate them and insinuate your stupid. Dave has immense credibility because of his experience (which I lack). Also Dave does a good job of sharing his perspective without making the other party feel attacked. Email is a challenging forum for this kind of exchange because it's so easy to misread a comment and overreact to it. Perhaps if I'd posted a picture of the anchor along with the posting it would have been more valuable? Maybe I'll find a place to put a picture. Anyway, I do appreciate the feedback, I also believe drilling the anchor was the right thing to do, but I'm sure I'll hear for a week what a dumb ass I am :) Thanks! Scott Bulger, Alanui, N40II, Seattle WA Oh, PS, if that anchor bites well enough in the bottom to bend the shank where I drilled it, I'm going to buy stock in the company because it's one hell of an anchor! Oh wait, I think they went out of business? Uh oh! g Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World Productions, formerly known as Trawler World Productions. _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power To unsubscribe send email to passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com with the word UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. Passagemaking Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World Productions, formerly known as Trawler World Productions.

SB

Scott Bulger

Fri, Aug 17, 2007 12:35 PM

Hi Mark,

Current plan is to depart Neah Bay on Aug 30 or there abouts. Of course
it's weather permitting. We plan to go at a leisurely pace, so perhaps our
paths will cross! Thanks for the note, we will keep our eyes out for you!
Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com
[mailto:passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of
Mark Tilden
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 11:53 PM
To: 'Passagemaking Under Power List'
Subject: Re: [PUP] Nordhavn 40 improvements for FUBAR and beyond

Scott:

I'm delivering Bob Klein's Selene 53 "Kasekuchen" down the coast, leaving
from Gig Harbor sometime around the 5th of September (weather permitting).
If you guys are headed down in that time frame, let me know. Perhaps we can
just touch base on the trip down.

Best Regards,
Capt. Mark Tilden

-----Original Message-----
From: passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com
[mailto:passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of
Scott Bulger
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:53 AM
To: 'Passagemaking Under Power List'
Subject: Re: [PUP] Nordhavn 40 improvements for FUBAR and beyond

Well, nice thing is it's my anchor and I get to drill it if I think it needs
to be drilled. If I blow down on SwanSong during that wind change I'll be
right there to write you a check for repairs and buy you a cold one.
(Unlike the sailboat FLASH that's hit me twice in my marina).

I appreciate the feedback, one thing to consider is so few people contribute
to forums like this because it seems if your willing to publicize your
thoughts and ideas there is always someone to debate them and insinuate your
stupid. Dave has immense credibility because of his experience (which I
lack). Also Dave does a good job of sharing his perspective without making
the other party feel attacked. Email is a challenging forum for this kind
of exchange because it's so easy to misread a comment and overreact to it.
Perhaps if I'd posted a picture of the anchor along with the posting it
would have been more valuable? Maybe I'll find a place to put a picture.
Anyway, I do appreciate the feedback, I also believe drilling the anchor was
the right thing to do, but I'm sure I'll hear for a week what a dumb ass I
am :)

Thanks!

Scott Bulger, Alanui, N40II, Seattle WA

Oh, PS, if that anchor bites well enough in the bottom to bend the shank
where I drilled it, I'm going to buy stock in the company because it's one
hell of an anchor! Oh wait, I think they went out of business? Uh oh!
g Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World Productions, formerly
known as Trawler World Productions.

http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power

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formerly known as Trawler World Productions.

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formerly known as Trawler World Productions.

Hi Mark, Current plan is to depart Neah Bay on Aug 30 or there abouts. Of course it's weather permitting. We plan to go at a leisurely pace, so perhaps our paths will cross! Thanks for the note, we will keep our eyes out for you! Scott -----Original Message----- From: passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Mark Tilden Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 11:53 PM To: 'Passagemaking Under Power List' Subject: Re: [PUP] Nordhavn 40 improvements for FUBAR and beyond Scott: I'm delivering Bob Klein's Selene 53 "Kasekuchen" down the coast, leaving from Gig Harbor sometime around the 5th of September (weather permitting). If you guys are headed down in that time frame, let me know. Perhaps we can just touch base on the trip down. Best Regards, Capt. Mark Tilden -----Original Message----- From: passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Scott Bulger Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:53 AM To: 'Passagemaking Under Power List' Subject: Re: [PUP] Nordhavn 40 improvements for FUBAR and beyond Well, nice thing is it's my anchor and I get to drill it if I think it needs to be drilled. If I blow down on SwanSong during that wind change I'll be right there to write you a check for repairs and buy you a cold one. (Unlike the sailboat FLASH that's hit me twice in my marina). I appreciate the feedback, one thing to consider is so few people contribute to forums like this because it seems if your willing to publicize your thoughts and ideas there is always someone to debate them and insinuate your stupid. Dave has immense credibility because of his experience (which I lack). Also Dave does a good job of sharing his perspective without making the other party feel attacked. Email is a challenging forum for this kind of exchange because it's so easy to misread a comment and overreact to it. Perhaps if I'd posted a picture of the anchor along with the posting it would have been more valuable? Maybe I'll find a place to put a picture. Anyway, I do appreciate the feedback, I also believe drilling the anchor was the right thing to do, but I'm sure I'll hear for a week what a dumb ass I am :) Thanks! Scott Bulger, Alanui, N40II, Seattle WA Oh, PS, if that anchor bites well enough in the bottom to bend the shank where I drilled it, I'm going to buy stock in the company because it's one hell of an anchor! Oh wait, I think they went out of business? Uh oh! g Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World Productions, formerly known as Trawler World Productions. _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power To unsubscribe send email to passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com with the word UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. Passagemaking Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World Productions, formerly known as Trawler World Productions. _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power To unsubscribe send email to passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com with the word UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. Passagemaking Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World Productions, formerly known as Trawler World Productions.

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Re: [PUP] Nordhavn 40 improvements for FUBAR and beyond