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DH
David Hart
Wed, Jul 15, 2009 3:11 PM

This is just FYI in dealing with Norcold products.
My 7 year old Norcold model DE561F refrigerator has a bad thermostat, it is
freezing the refrigerator and only intermittently will the switch shut it off.
I called Norcold to confirm the thermostat part # was the same as my manual
and it is. I then called a distributor to order one and he said Norcold
stopped making these several months ago. I called Norcold back and they
confirmed this. Why they didn't tell me this initially is unknown.  Norcold's
solution to this is to buy another refrigerator as a replacement thermostat is
not available. I told them if I buy another refrigerator it will not have
their name on it. Typical now they didn't really care.

Dave Hart
Lake Ontario

This is just FYI in dealing with Norcold products. My 7 year old Norcold model DE561F refrigerator has a bad thermostat, it is freezing the refrigerator and only intermittently will the switch shut it off. I called Norcold to confirm the thermostat part # was the same as my manual and it is. I then called a distributor to order one and he said Norcold stopped making these several months ago. I called Norcold back and they confirmed this. Why they didn't tell me this initially is unknown. Norcold's solution to this is to buy another refrigerator as a replacement thermostat is not available. I told them if I buy another refrigerator it will not have their name on it. Typical now they didn't really care. Dave Hart Lake Ontario
K
Keith
Wed, Jul 15, 2009 3:28 PM

These guys have lots of refrigeration parts, including generic replacements
for things like that:
http://www.rparts.com/

Keith


-----Original Message-----

This is just FYI in dealing with Norcold products.
My 7 year old Norcold model DE561F refrigerator has a bad thermostat, it is
freezing the refrigerator and only intermittently will the switch shut it
off.
I called Norcold to confirm the thermostat part # was the same as my manual
and it is. I then called a distributor to order one and he said Norcold
stopped making these several months ago. I called Norcold back and they
confirmed this. Why they didn't tell me this initially is unknown.
Norcold's solution to this is to buy another refrigerator as a replacement
thermostat is not available. I told them if I buy another refrigerator it
will not have their name on it. Typical now they didn't really care.

Dave Hart
Lake Ontario

These guys have lots of refrigeration parts, including generic replacements for things like that: http://www.rparts.com/ Keith _____ -----Original Message----- This is just FYI in dealing with Norcold products. My 7 year old Norcold model DE561F refrigerator has a bad thermostat, it is freezing the refrigerator and only intermittently will the switch shut it off. I called Norcold to confirm the thermostat part # was the same as my manual and it is. I then called a distributor to order one and he said Norcold stopped making these several months ago. I called Norcold back and they confirmed this. Why they didn't tell me this initially is unknown. Norcold's solution to this is to buy another refrigerator as a replacement thermostat is not available. I told them if I buy another refrigerator it will not have their name on it. Typical now they didn't really care. Dave Hart Lake Ontario
J&
Jean & Michael
Wed, Jul 15, 2009 4:29 PM

Well, I am tried of running the genset just to make a pot of coffee or
watch TV/dvd so considering a 1000W inverter. Checking a couple of websites
makes it look simple enough- use the proper cables off the house battery
with a short run to the inverter then use an extension cord from the
inverter to the appliance. Any comments appreciated.

Michael Wilkie
Dancin' Dolphin II
Willow Berm Marina, Cal.

Well, I am tried of running the genset just to make a pot of coffee or watch TV/dvd so considering a 1000W inverter. Checking a couple of websites makes it look simple enough- use the proper cables off the house battery with a short run to the inverter then use an extension cord from the inverter to the appliance. Any comments appreciated. Michael Wilkie Dancin' Dolphin II Willow Berm Marina, Cal.
JA
Jim Ague
Wed, Jul 15, 2009 6:54 PM

Well, I am tried of running the genset just to make a pot of coffee or
watch TV/dvd so considering a 1000W inverter.

Use a propane stovetop for the coffee (if so equipped) and a small, portable
inverter (150watt) for electronics (TV/DVD, laptop, ...)

-- Jim

> Well, I am tried of running the genset just to make a pot of coffee or > watch TV/dvd so considering a 1000W inverter. Use a propane stovetop for the coffee (if so equipped) and a small, portable inverter (150watt) for electronics (TV/DVD, laptop, ...) -- Jim
CA
Chuck and Susan
Wed, Jul 15, 2009 7:00 PM

We are getting lazy as a society and too dependent on updated technology.
Nothing makes a better cup of coffee than a pot percolating on the stove and
it smells so good. We used a 650 watt dedicated pure sine wave inverter to run
our "entertainment system" hardwired to those outlets and it ran off this all
the time. It ran the 26" LCD TV, the DVD player/recorder and the satellite
receiver with no problem. This protects the equipment from power fluctuations
and keeps it going when outages occur.

To follow our adventures, go to
http://trawler-beach-house.blogspot.com/
http://sea-trek.blogspot.com/


On Wed, 7/15/09, Jim Ague ague@usa.net wrote:

From: Jim Ague

Subject: Re: T&T: Inverter
To: "Jean & Michael"

Date:

Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 2:54 PM

Well, I am tried of

running the

genset just to make a pot of coffee or watch

TV/dvd so considering a 1000W

inverter.

Use a propane stovetop for the coffee (if so equipped) and
a

small, portable inverter (150watt) for electronics

(TV/DVD, laptop, ...)

-- Jim _______________________________________________

We are getting lazy as a society and too dependent on updated technology. Nothing makes a better cup of coffee than a pot percolating on the stove and it smells so good. We used a 650 watt dedicated pure sine wave inverter to run our "entertainment system" hardwired to those outlets and it ran off this all the time. It ran the 26" LCD TV, the DVD player/recorder and the satellite receiver with no problem. This protects the equipment from power fluctuations and keeps it going when outages occur. To follow our adventures, go to http://trawler-beach-house.blogspot.com/ http://sea-trek.blogspot.com/ --- On Wed, 7/15/09, Jim Ague <ague@usa.net> wrote: > From: Jim Ague <ague@usa.net> > Subject: Re: T&T: Inverter > To: "Jean & Michael" <jdmw@sbcglobal.net>, trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com > Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 2:54 PM > > Well, I am tried of > running the genset just to make a pot of coffee or watch > TV/dvd so considering a 1000W inverter. > > Use a propane stovetop for the coffee (if so equipped) and > a small, portable inverter (150watt) for electronics > (TV/DVD, laptop, ...) > > -- Jim _______________________________________________
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2elnav@netbistro.com
Wed, Jul 15, 2009 7:18 PM

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck and Susan" sea_trek_2000@yahoo.com

We are getting lazy as a society and too dependent on updated technology.
Nothing makes a better cup of coffee than a pot percolating on the stove
and
it smells so good.

REPLY
Speaking of  being less dependent on high technology , I just finished
converting my Satellite TV dish to a fire pit.  I removed the LNB  and added
three legs to the dish. Now it sits above the ground level  so as not to be
a fire hazard  by starting the grass or roots on fire and the arm holding
the LNB can be used to support  a  pot  or kettle.  No inverter required.
<VBG>
Strict  forest fire regulation in the whole province forbids open fires on
the ground.
Arild

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck and Susan" <sea_trek_2000@yahoo.com> > We are getting lazy as a society and too dependent on updated technology. > Nothing makes a better cup of coffee than a pot percolating on the stove > and > it smells so good. REPLY Speaking of being less dependent on high technology , I just finished converting my Satellite TV dish to a fire pit. I removed the LNB and added three legs to the dish. Now it sits above the ground level so as not to be a fire hazard by starting the grass or roots on fire and the arm holding the LNB can be used to support a pot or kettle. No inverter required. <VBG> Strict forest fire regulation in the whole province forbids open fires on the ground. Arild
PG
Pascal Gademer
Wed, Jul 15, 2009 7:53 PM

if you're going to spend the money on an inverter, you may as well spend a
little more time hardwiring it to feed some of you circuits thru out the
boat. depending on your needs, you'd typically run the following circuits
thru the inverter: outlets, lights, microwave, firdge/freezer if AC only,
TVs, dinghy davit.

things you want to keep off the inverter include. Air Con, stove/oven, water
heater, charger, etc...

it's not hard to wire it that way and will give you the best flexibility in
the long run although obviously the more things you will run from teh
inverter the more likely you are to need additional batteries.

the inverter i installed on my boat 5 years ago, is best money i spent to
date (3kw and 8 golf cart batteries).  It paid for itself in a year in fuel
savings (i have an AC  power hungry 18 cft fridge freezer)

Pascal
miami, fl
hatteras 53MY

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean & Michael" jdmw@sbcglobal.net
To: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:29 PM
Subject: T&T: Inverter

Well, I am tried of running the genset just to make a pot of coffee or
watch TV/dvd so considering a 1000W inverter. Checking a couple of
websites makes it look simple enough- use the proper cables off the house
battery with a short run to the inverter then use an extension cord from
the inverter to the appliance. Any comments appreciated.

Michael Wilkie
Dancin' Dolphin II
Willow Berm Marina, Cal.


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if you're going to spend the money on an inverter, you may as well spend a little more time hardwiring it to feed some of you circuits thru out the boat. depending on your needs, you'd typically run the following circuits thru the inverter: outlets, lights, microwave, firdge/freezer if AC only, TVs, dinghy davit. things you want to keep off the inverter include. Air Con, stove/oven, water heater, charger, etc... it's not hard to wire it that way and will give you the best flexibility in the long run although obviously the more things you will run from teh inverter the more likely you are to need additional batteries. the inverter i installed on my boat 5 years ago, is best money i spent to date (3kw and 8 golf cart batteries). It paid for itself in a year in fuel savings (i have an AC power hungry 18 cft fridge freezer) Pascal miami, fl hatteras 53MY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean & Michael" <jdmw@sbcglobal.net> To: <trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:29 PM Subject: T&T: Inverter > Well, I am tried of running the genset just to make a pot of coffee or > watch TV/dvd so considering a 1000W inverter. Checking a couple of > websites makes it look simple enough- use the proper cables off the house > battery with a short run to the inverter then use an extension cord from > the inverter to the appliance. Any comments appreciated. > > Michael Wilkie > Dancin' Dolphin II > Willow Berm Marina, Cal. > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change > email address, etc) go to: > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering > > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.
MR
Mark Richter
Wed, Jul 15, 2009 8:09 PM

Michael,
I'm assuming you have electric cooking; if propane, just get a good
old-fashioned stove-top percolator, they make great coffee.  We line our
perc's basket with a paper coffee filter to filter out the finer bits of
grounds and make cleaning easier.

A simple inverter-only (not an inverter-charger with built-in transfer
switch) is just about as easy to install as you would think.  Since at
1000w, your 12v cables will be running about 80 amps, locate the inverter as
close to the house battery as you reasonably can.  Use #6 wire or larger for
a 24' round trip or less.  #4 wire will make it to about 40' r.t. (20 feet
between the inverter and the battery).  These are minimums, larger wire will
make the inverter hapiper at high amperage, like making coffee.  Include a
100A fuse or circuit breaker in the positive wire as near as possible to the
battery (should be within 7").

Mark Richter, m/v Winnie the Pooh, Ortona, FL on the Okeechbee Waterway
Mark's Mobile Marine
Electrical system design, installation and repair at your dock or mine.

Well, I am tried of running the genset just to make a pot of coffee or
watch TV/dvd so considering a 1000W inverter. Checking a couple of
websites makes it look simple enough- use the proper cables off the house
battery with a short run to the inverter then use an extension cord from
the inverter to the appliance. Any comments appreciated.

Michael Wilkie

Michael, I'm assuming you have electric cooking; if propane, just get a good old-fashioned stove-top percolator, they make great coffee. We line our perc's basket with a paper coffee filter to filter out the finer bits of grounds and make cleaning easier. A simple inverter-only (not an inverter-charger with built-in transfer switch) is just about as easy to install as you would think. Since at 1000w, your 12v cables will be running about 80 amps, locate the inverter as close to the house battery as you reasonably can. Use #6 wire or larger for a 24' round trip or less. #4 wire will make it to about 40' r.t. (20 feet between the inverter and the battery). These are minimums, larger wire will make the inverter hapiper at high amperage, like making coffee. Include a 100A fuse or circuit breaker in the positive wire as near as possible to the battery (should be within 7"). Mark Richter, m/v Winnie the Pooh, Ortona, FL on the Okeechbee Waterway Mark's Mobile Marine Electrical system design, installation and repair at your dock or mine. > Well, I am tried of running the genset just to make a pot of coffee or > watch TV/dvd so considering a 1000W inverter. Checking a couple of > websites makes it look simple enough- use the proper cables off the house > battery with a short run to the inverter then use an extension cord from > the inverter to the appliance. Any comments appreciated. > > Michael Wilkie
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Rob
Thu, Jul 16, 2009 8:30 AM

(This is just FYI in dealing with Norcold products.
My 7 year old Norcold model DE561F refrigerator has a bad thermostat, it is
freezing the refrigerator and only intermittently will the switch shut it
off.)

Dave, I have an Isotherm which had the same problem and they couldn't supply
due to age. A good refrigerator supply company sold me one that was very
close and it works like a dream.

With reference the net cutting story I must congratulate Chris. Quite a
story and I've been under my 42 ft Cheoy Lee in Hong Kong when I wrapped a
nylon rope around a shaft. The nylon had melted itself into one big lump of
plastic and very difficult to cut off. A diving knife and many trips down
with a snorkel, no diving gear. I went cold reading the story.

Rob Harrington-Johnson
Mariner 30
Sydney

(This is just FYI in dealing with Norcold products. My 7 year old Norcold model DE561F refrigerator has a bad thermostat, it is freezing the refrigerator and only intermittently will the switch shut it off.) Dave, I have an Isotherm which had the same problem and they couldn't supply due to age. A good refrigerator supply company sold me one that was very close and it works like a dream. With reference the net cutting story I must congratulate Chris. Quite a story and I've been under my 42 ft Cheoy Lee in Hong Kong when I wrapped a nylon rope around a shaft. The nylon had melted itself into one big lump of plastic and very difficult to cut off. A diving knife and many trips down with a snorkel, no diving gear. I went cold reading the story. Rob Harrington-Johnson Mariner 30 Sydney