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Re: TWL: Ice Box Rework

RP
Richter-Pooh@rocketmail.com
Wed, Jan 17, 2001 5:43 PM

<<The current plan is to take the guts of one of these

carry-around ice chests (you know, the ones with the
little metal plates for keeping food cool) and
stick that in there as a means of holding ice a bit
longer that would otherwise be the case.  Since the
cooling plate thingy is free (given to me
by a friend), I don't have much to lose.  Anybody with

a comment is welcomed to do so.>>

These Thermo-electric coolers are simple, cheap, and
long lived.  Unfortunately, they are much less
efficient (I think about 2-3 times) than a
freon/compressor type of refrigeration.  Worth having
if you can stand the amps, for instance, while
underway.

<<As part of this rework, I am renewing the seals
around the lid of the box and may replace the
insulation in the lid.  The current insulation is that
cheapo white styrofoam like you get in the cheapo ice
chests from WALMART. It is contained by a 2-inch deep
stainless steel pan the attaches to the top.  I am
wondering what the highest R-rating material is that
would be simple to cut up or pour into this thing.
I'll appreciate your input.>>

White beadboard like you have now has an R-value
around 3 per inch, depending on how well made it is,
but is transparent to moisture, so makes very poor
refrig insulation.  Real styrofoam (no beads and
usually light blue) is about R4/inch.  2-lb/cu ft
density urethane foam (board or pourable, or spray
can) has R 5/inch.  Foil faced polyisocyanate foam
board is around 6.5/inch, and is readily available
from many building supply centers in 4X8 sheets in 1/2
and 3/4 inch thicknesses.  Cost is nearly proportional
to R-value, so take your pick.

=====
Mark Richter, M.E., aboard M/V Winnie the Pooh,
custom Morgan 46 Pilothouse Efficiency Trawler.
"Mark's Mobile Marine" electrical systems repair & consulting.  Homeport Stuart, FL


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<<The current plan is to take the guts of one of these carry-around ice chests (you know, the ones with the little metal plates for keeping food cool) and stick that in there as a means of holding ice a bit longer that would otherwise be the case. Since the cooling plate thingy is free (given to me by a friend), I don't have much to lose. Anybody with a comment is welcomed to do so.>> These Thermo-electric coolers are simple, cheap, and long lived. Unfortunately, they are much less efficient (I think about 2-3 times) than a freon/compressor type of refrigeration. Worth having if you can stand the amps, for instance, while underway. <<As part of this rework, I am renewing the seals around the lid of the box and may replace the insulation in the lid. The current insulation is that cheapo white styrofoam like you get in the cheapo ice chests from WALMART. It is contained by a 2-inch deep stainless steel pan the attaches to the top. I am wondering what the highest R-rating material is that would be simple to cut up or pour into this thing. I'll appreciate your input.>> White beadboard like you have now has an R-value around 3 per inch, depending on how well made it is, but is transparent to moisture, so makes very poor refrig insulation. Real styrofoam (no beads and usually light blue) is about R4/inch. 2-lb/cu ft density urethane foam (board or pourable, or spray can) has R 5/inch. Foil faced polyisocyanate foam board is around 6.5/inch, and is readily available from many building supply centers in 4X8 sheets in 1/2 and 3/4 inch thicknesses. Cost is nearly proportional to R-value, so take your pick. ===== Mark Richter, M.E., aboard M/V Winnie the Pooh, custom Morgan 46 Pilothouse Efficiency Trawler. "Mark's Mobile Marine" electrical systems repair & consulting. Homeport Stuart, FL __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/