RON OFFERS - Over time, our marketplace society is based upon voting with our pocketbooks. On the rare occasions when we buy a new yacht and it comes with a great electronics package at a great price, perhaps we should tell them to shove the package if we have learned that the product line or brand is unreliable. We should vote with our feet. If we get caught with a bad product we should scream like heck! Most people do not do that. REPLY Great Advice! On two occasions I met a customer who decided to buy a particular model boat but declined to have any equipment installed. In fact one boat was delivered without appliances. The owner then had the boat fitted with his particular choice of electronics and appliances. In both cases the owners concerned were experienced boaters and had done their homework. They knew exactly what brands they wanted and which installers they trusted to do the work. Not a bad way to go. Arild --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.423 / Virus Database: 238 - Release Date: 11/25/2002