Jeeze,
I just can NOT get my head around the concept that anybody would even
consider using an electric stove/oven unless connected to shorepower.

Arild.
Sailboats use stove/ovens which are GIMBAL mounted. Those pot holders work
hust fine, thank you.
Propane is only as dangerous as YOU let it be. There are lots of methods to
make it safer, gas detectors to find leaks, oxegen level detectors to
prevent asphixiation, etc.
Simply installing the tanks properleyb, etc.

Excuse me. but a good chef will prefer a propane flame to an electric
element every time, I think  .

AGAIN just my 2 cents...

Eric Thompson
S/V Procrastinator
South San Francisco
capteric36@sbcglobal.net

Eric,

the new induction stoves seem to be the best choice, except for $$
My research indicates that while propane and electric heating element
are about 40-50% efficient, induction seems to be above 85% efficient.
What I have not been above to find is the efficiency of the wallas
diesel cooktops.
My guess is probably not much better, or worse than propane.
But, still, given all of the above, on my new trawler, it will have a
propane cook top, a small portable, proane single element cook top
for emergencies, and the Admiral is looking at a small, one unit
portable induction cook top as a backup. (She really wants this for
"simmering" purposes.)

I went with propane because induction tops were $$$$. I did not want
the safety hassle of a hot electric element in a normal glass top.
I did not go with a wallas because they only have 2 "burners" and the
Admiral wants at least three, if not 4.
Lee

On Apr 3, 2010, at 1420, Eric T. wrote:

Jeeze,
I just can NOT get my head around the concept that anybody would even
consider using an electric stove/oven unless connected to shorepower...

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I have been married for 34 years and cook every meal, every day. I tell this
to separate me from those who do "guest appearances" in the kitchen/galley.

I have cooked with town gas, natural gas, bottled gas and electric (solid
plates, coils, halogen and induction).

The best, fastest, most powerful, controllable, economical and safest - by
far - is induction. IMHO.

The downside is indeed $$$ to purchase and to repair.
Last year one of my induction units on my 8 years old 4 burner Scholtes
TI754 went TU.
This cost (converted from Euros to dollars at today's rate) $1,350 in 2002
Cost to repair (swap out) the faulty unit $880
I bought a completely new AEG/Electrolux induction cook-top for $900 -
prices have come down.

In Europe - Single and dual plug-in cook-tops are available from around $100
but these are probably made in China, indeterminate quality and relatively
low powered - circa 1700W.
On board I would prefer a single unit, something around 2kW and running from
a 3kW inverter.
Cooking times on high power are minimal and on low power the current draw is
acceptable.

Just my 2 Eurocents worth.

Regards

Roger Bingham
France

FWIW, I too thought about what to install to augment our Dickinson Diesel
stove for use during the summer.  Looked at Electric some and Wallas a lot
with the idea of using fuels I already carried.

In the end, went with propane as I realized I would need to carry propane
for the BBQ anyway.

Now, if I could have found a Diesel BBQ :-)

-al-

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Subject: Re: T&T: Electric stoves

I went with propane because induction tops were $$$$. I did not want
the safety hassle of a hot electric element in a normal glass top.
I did not go with a wallas because they only have 2 "burners" and the
Admiral wants at least three, if not 4.
Lee