Could be Marin - I don't own one and it's been a year since I looked at one. All I can tell you is the burner was in the back of the oven on the 3-4 boats I was aboard and it made a lousy tray of brownies regardless of how the door slides. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Faure, Marin [mailto:marin.faure@boeing.com] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 1:02 PM To: trawler-world-list@lists.samurai.com Cc: Pisciotta, Peter P, GLPRO Subject: RE: Force 10 propane stove >Definitely talking about Force 10 propane stove (no experience with electric). Looking at their website, seems all new Force 10's have "fold-away" oven doors as opposed to a conventional hinge-down door. The door has an articulated hinge and tucks along the floor of the oven, thus covering what would be the burner. To accommodate, Force 10 moved the burner to the back of the oven creating uneven heating. Our Force 10 propane stove has the fold-away door, but it slides down into a space under the whole stove unit. It does not slide over the oven floor at all. The reason I know this, besides the fact that we have one, is that when I recently thought I'd have to replace the thermocouple on the oven burner, it was obvious that to get to the underside of the burner to remove the thermocouple, in other words access the stove from below, I'd have to slide the stove out about halfway because opening the door and sliding it out of the way blocked access to the UNDERSIDE of the oven, not the inside. The piping and connections for the oven burner fit in the gap between the folded-away door and the underside of the unit. Think about your description for a moment- if the door did as you claim and slides away into the oven covering the burner, what happens to the surface of that door if you open the oven with the burner lit, which is a common practice when cooking. The door would end up directly above the lit burner. Not a good idea. No, the door slides away under the entire unit, and doesn't interfere with the oven burner placement at all, which in our unit is in the middle of the bottom of the oven. C. Marin Faure GB36-403 "La Perouse" Bellingham, WA

Down here you cannot get boat insurance without a gas compliance certificate. To get a GCC you need thermocouples (or a minimum of 2 bilge sniffers). We've just had 4 thermocouples and new burners installed into our elderly Richmond Ring Shipmate stove. Total cost - $300. The stove is now better than new. John Vallentine "Tainui" Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pisciotta, Peter P, GLPRO" <pisciotta@att.com> To: "Faure, Marin" <marin.faure@boeing.com>; < Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 8:24 AM Subject: TWL: RE: Force 10 propane stove > Could be Marin - I don't own one and it's been a year since I looked at one. > All I can tell you is the burner was in the back of the oven on the 3-4 boats > I was aboard and it made a lousy tray of brownies regardless of how the door > slides. > > Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: Faure, Marin [mailto:marin.faure@boeing.com] > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 1:02 PM > To: trawler-world-list@lists.samurai.com > Cc: Pisciotta, Peter P, GLPRO > Subject: RE: Force 10 propane stove > > > >Definitely talking about Force 10 propane stove (no experience with > electric). Looking at their website, seems all new Force 10's have "fold-away" > oven doors as opposed to a conventional hinge-down door. The door has an > articulated hinge and tucks along the floor of the oven, thus covering what > would be the burner. To accommodate, Force 10 moved the burner to the back of > the oven creating uneven heating. > > Our Force 10 propane stove has the fold-away door, but it slides down into a > space under the whole stove unit. It does not slide over the oven floor at > all. The reason I know this, besides the fact that we have one, is that when > I recently thought I'd have to replace the thermocouple on the oven burner, it > was obvious that to get to the underside of the burner to remove the > thermocouple, in other words access the stove from below, I'd have to slide > the stove out about halfway because opening the door and sliding it out of the > way blocked access to the UNDERSIDE of the oven, not the inside. The piping > and connections for the oven burner fit in the gap between the folded-away > door and the underside of the unit. > > Think about your description for a moment- if the door did as you claim and > slides away into the oven covering the burner, what happens to the surface of > that door if you open the oven with the burner lit, which is a common practice > when cooking. The door would end up directly above the lit burner. Not a > good idea. No, the door slides away under the entire unit, and doesn't > interfere with the oven burner placement at all, which in our unit is in the > middle of the bottom of the oven. > > C. Marin Faure > GB36-403 "La Perouse" > Bellingham, WA > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawler-world-list > > To Unsubscribe send email to trawler-world-list-request@lists.samurai.com > Include the word "Unsubscribe" (and nothing else) in the subject or body of the message. >