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Fri, Mar 26, 2010 4:12 PM

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My thoughts have been that "recycling" boats would be a good thing. I know
that methods, materials, products, and markets have changed and Lord knows
that  repairing and refurbishing a boat is not an easy nor cheap thing to
do,  but.... there's a lot of older boats out there, they have some value
maybe,  generally they don't wear out they rust out and discarding them is a
problem,  and they could be recycled effectively if approached in the right
mind  set.

Example:  take an older sailboat, remove the rig, add some deck living
area enclosure, possibly remove , alter, or modify some of the keel  and
rudder, add some fuel capacity, make a trawler

Could that concept not be as valid as designing the "perfect"  BCCYU40 that
supports the same overhead system that exists? Isn't  consumption one of
the problems with the economy now? If function dictates  design there would
only be one style of boat. Everyone has a different opinion  of what function
is and how it affects the overall experience.

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Matt Mattson
Sat, Mar 27, 2010 1:43 PM

You have essentially described the "Mischief," it has been cruising
now for over 30 years under multiple owners, engines, interiors and
now with a new engine, and the interior re-arranged to suite us, it
carries on just fine.

The "Mischief": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjHNSzZ0PxE

My thoughts have been that "recycling" boats would be a good thing.
I know
that methods, materials, products, and markets have changed and
Lord knows
that  repairing and refurbishing a boat is not an easy nor cheap
thing to
do,  but.... there's a lot of older boats out there, they have some
value
maybe,  generally they don't wear out they rust out and discarding
them is a
problem,  and they could be recycled effectively if approached in
the right
mind  set.

Example:  take an older sailboat, remove the rig, add some deck living
area enclosure, possibly remove , alter, or modify some of the
keel  and
rudder, add some fuel capacity, make a trawler

Could that concept not be as valid as designing the "perfect"
BCCYU40 that
supports the same overhead system that exists? Isn't  consumption
one of
the problems with the economy now? If function dictates  design
there would
only be one style of boat. Everyone has a different opinion  of
what function
is and how it affects the overall experience.


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You have essentially described the "Mischief," it has been cruising now for over 30 years under multiple owners, engines, interiors and now with a new engine, and the interior re-arranged to suite us, it carries on just fine. The "Mischief": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjHNSzZ0PxE > > My thoughts have been that "recycling" boats would be a good thing. > I know > that methods, materials, products, and markets have changed and > Lord knows > that repairing and refurbishing a boat is not an easy nor cheap > thing to > do, but.... there's a lot of older boats out there, they have some > value > maybe, generally they don't wear out they rust out and discarding > them is a > problem, and they could be recycled effectively if approached in > the right > mind set. > > Example: take an older sailboat, remove the rig, add some deck living > area enclosure, possibly remove , alter, or modify some of the > keel and > rudder, add some fuel capacity, make a trawler > > Could that concept not be as valid as designing the "perfect" > BCCYU40 that > supports the same overhead system that exists? Isn't consumption > one of > the problems with the economy now? If function dictates design > there would > only be one style of boat. Everyone has a different opinion of > what function > is and how it affects the overall experience. > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/ > great-loop
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Mike Eedy
Tue, Mar 30, 2010 11:00 PM

Campion 30??

CHeers EH

Michael

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Mattson" flagold@gate.net
To: SeaLubber7@aol.com
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Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: GL: Fwd: Best coastal cruising yacht under 40'

You have essentially described the "Mischief," it has been cruising
now for over 30 years under multiple owners, engines, interiors and
now with a new engine, and the interior re-arranged to suite us, it
carries on just fine.

The "Mischief": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjHNSzZ0PxE

Campion 30?? CHeers EH Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Mattson" <flagold@gate.net> To: <SeaLubber7@aol.com> Cc: <great-loop@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 9:43 AM Subject: Re: GL: Fwd: Best coastal cruising yacht under 40' > You have essentially described the "Mischief," it has been cruising > now for over 30 years under multiple owners, engines, interiors and > now with a new engine, and the interior re-arranged to suite us, it > carries on just fine. > > The "Mischief": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjHNSzZ0PxE
MM
Matt Mattson
Tue, Mar 30, 2010 11:38 PM

Very similar looking, and similar weights, although I like the
interior layout of ours much better, and the fact we cruise the same
mph on 1/2 the horsepower (@1 gph).

We also have a C-Dory 22, great boat to camp on.

Matt

All the "Mischief" ICW movies:

http://www.youtube.com/flagold

On Mar 30, 2010, at 7:00 PM, Mike Eedy wrote:

Campion 30??

CHeers EH

Michael

----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Mattson" flagold@gate.net
To: SeaLubber7@aol.com
Cc: great-loop@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: GL: Fwd: Best coastal cruising yacht under 40'

You have essentially described the "Mischief," it has been
cruising  now for over 30 years under multiple owners, engines,
interiors and  now with a new engine, and the interior re-arranged
to suite us, it  carries on just fine.
The "Mischief": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjHNSzZ0PxE


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Very similar looking, and similar weights, although I like the interior layout of ours much better, and the fact we cruise the same mph on 1/2 the horsepower (@1 gph). We also have a C-Dory 22, great boat to camp on. Matt All the "Mischief" ICW movies: http://www.youtube.com/flagold On Mar 30, 2010, at 7:00 PM, Mike Eedy wrote: > Campion 30?? > > CHeers EH > > Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Mattson" <flagold@gate.net> > To: <SeaLubber7@aol.com> > Cc: <great-loop@lists.samurai.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 9:43 AM > Subject: Re: GL: Fwd: Best coastal cruising yacht under 40' > > >> You have essentially described the "Mischief," it has been >> cruising now for over 30 years under multiple owners, engines, >> interiors and now with a new engine, and the interior re-arranged >> to suite us, it carries on just fine. >> The "Mischief": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjHNSzZ0PxE > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/ > great-loop