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Patrick And Margie Connor via Trawlers-and-Trawlering

Wed, May 28, 2014 8:31 PM

All, This is a really silly question to be asked by someone who's been
seriously boating for over 40 years and having boats with diesels for 30
years, However, in all those years, I never had to use the drain on the
bottom of my RACOR filters. The time has come. I see the bottom 1/2 of the
glass bowl is dirty dark fuel, while the top 1/2 looks good. Obviously I
know how to get the bad fuel out of the lower part of the bowl--open the
drain cock. My concern is; do I have to do anything special to keep from
getting air in the fuel system? I hate bleeding the fuel system, especially
both of them.

Thanks for your forth coming wise guidance!

Patrick Connor
Prairie 36 "Cheers"
Ft Myers, FL

All, This is a really silly question to be asked by someone who's been seriously boating for over 40 years and having boats with diesels for 30 years, However, in all those years, I never had to use the drain on the bottom of my RACOR filters. The time has come. I see the bottom 1/2 of the glass bowl is dirty dark fuel, while the top 1/2 looks good. Obviously I know how to get the bad fuel out of the lower part of the bowl--open the drain cock. My concern is; do I have to do anything special to keep from getting air in the fuel system? I hate bleeding the fuel system, especially both of them. Thanks for your forth coming wise guidance! Patrick Connor Prairie 36 "Cheers" Ft Myers, FL

MH

Matthew Hahn via Trawlers-and-Trawlering

Wed, May 28, 2014 9:23 PM

Patrick,
Drain off all the fuel in the bowl, replace the filter and then fill the
entire bowl with clean diesel. Close everything back up. You should be
fine. I really doubt you'll need to bleed anything. If you have a manual
pump on your lift pump, perhaps pump it until you hear fuel going back into
the tank via the return line.(Probably not necessary) Start the engines
and be sure to give them a little extra fuel (1200 RPM's or so) after
starting so if they "stutter" they won't stall.

Hope this helps,
-Matt

All, This is a really silly question to be asked by someone who's been
seriously boating for over 40 years and having boats with diesels for 30
years, However, in all those years, I never had to use the drain on the
bottom of my RACOR filters. The time has come. I see the bottom 1/2 of the
glass bowl is dirty dark fuel, while the top 1/2 looks good. Obviously I
know how to get the bad fuel out of the lower part of the bowl--open the
drain cock. My concern is; do I have to do anything special to keep from
getting air in the fuel system? I hate bleeding the fuel system, especially
both of them.

Patrick, Drain off all the fuel in the bowl, replace the filter and then fill the entire bowl with clean diesel. Close everything back up. You should be fine. I really doubt you'll need to bleed anything. If you have a manual pump on your lift pump, perhaps pump it until you hear fuel going back into the tank via the return line.(Probably not necessary) Start the engines and be sure to give them a little extra fuel (1200 RPM's or so) after starting so if they "stutter" they won't stall. Hope this helps, -Matt All, This is a really silly question to be asked by someone who's been seriously boating for over 40 years and having boats with diesels for 30 years, However, in all those years, I never had to use the drain on the bottom of my RACOR filters. The time has come. I see the bottom 1/2 of the glass bowl is dirty dark fuel, while the top 1/2 looks good. Obviously I know how to get the bad fuel out of the lower part of the bowl--open the drain cock. My concern is; do I have to do anything special to keep from getting air in the fuel system? I hate bleeding the fuel system, especially both of them.

SN

Stan Nackdymon via Trawlers-and-Trawlering

Wed, May 28, 2014 9:28 PM

Shut of the pet cocks to the engine and refill the filter from the top, to
the top. That should keep fuel in the lines to the engine.

Stan

-----Original Message-----
From: Trawlers-and-Trawlering [mailto:] On Behalf Of Patrick And Margie
Connor via Trawlers-and-Trawlering
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 22:31
To: trawlers@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: T&T: Question on RACORS

All, This is a really silly question to be asked by someone who's been
seriously boating for over 40 years and having boats with diesels for 30
years, However, in all those years, I never had to use the drain on the
bottom of my RACOR filters. The time has come. I see the bottom 1/2 of the
glass bowl is dirty dark fuel, while the top 1/2 looks good. Obviously I
know how to get the bad fuel out of the lower part of the bowl--open the
drain cock. My concern is; do I have to do anything special to keep from
getting air in the fuel system? I hate bleeding the fuel system, especially
both of them.

Thanks for your forth coming wise guidance!

Patrick Connor
Prairie 36 "Cheers"
Ft Myers, FL

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Shut of the pet cocks to the engine and refill the filter from the top, to the top. That should keep fuel in the lines to the engine. Stan -----Original Message----- From: Trawlers-and-Trawlering [mailto:] On Behalf Of Patrick And Margie Connor via Trawlers-and-Trawlering Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 22:31 To: trawlers@lists.trawlering.com Subject: T&T: Question on RACORS All, This is a really silly question to be asked by someone who's been seriously boating for over 40 years and having boats with diesels for 30 years, However, in all those years, I never had to use the drain on the bottom of my RACOR filters. The time has come. I see the bottom 1/2 of the glass bowl is dirty dark fuel, while the top 1/2 looks good. Obviously I know how to get the bad fuel out of the lower part of the bowl--open the drain cock. My concern is; do I have to do anything special to keep from getting air in the fuel system? I hate bleeding the fuel system, especially both of them. Thanks for your forth coming wise guidance! Patrick Connor Prairie 36 "Cheers" Ft Myers, FL _______________________________________________ http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change email address, etc) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.

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larry talley via Trawlers-and-Trawlering

Thu, May 29, 2014 12:17 AM

Aboard my boat, the Racors are fairly low in the fuel system, and unless my
fuel tank(s) are less than about 1/3 full, I can drain off the bottom of my
Racor without loosening the lid, and the fuel/crud drawn off the bottom of
the Racor should be replaced by fuel siphoned from the fuel tank, allowing
no air into the system.

If my fuel tank(s) were to be less than 1/3 full (below the level of the
racor fuel) then if I opened the drain in the Racor, I presume air would
enter through the Racor drain and bubble up towards the local high point
(the top of the Racor) as fuel siphoned backward into my fuel tank, and
that would require opening the lid of the Racor to refill with clean fuel.
I am sure I have encountered this situation at some time but I don't
actually remember seeing it happen.

Larry
MV Cariña

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Stan Nackdymon via Trawlers-and-Trawlering
trawlers@lists.trawlering.com wrote:

Shut of the pet cocks to the engine and refill the filter from the top, to
the top. That should keep fuel in the lines to the engine.

Stan

-----Original Message-----
From: Trawlers-and-Trawlering [mailto:] On Behalf Of Patrick And Margie
Connor via Trawlers-and-Trawlering
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 22:31
To: trawlers@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: T&T: Question on RACORS

All, This is a really silly question to be asked by someone who's been
seriously boating for over 40 years and having boats with diesels for 30
years, However, in all those years, I never had to use the drain on the
bottom of my RACOR filters. The time has come. I see the bottom 1/2 of
the
glass bowl is dirty dark fuel, while the top 1/2 looks good. Obviously I
know how to get the bad fuel out of the lower part of the bowl--open the
drain cock. My concern is; do I have to do anything special to keep from
getting air in the fuel system? I hate bleeding the fuel system,
especially
both of them.

Thanks for your forth coming wise guidance!

Patrick Connor
Prairie 36 "Cheers"
Ft Myers, FL

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Aboard my boat, the Racors are fairly low in the fuel system, and unless my fuel tank(s) are less than about 1/3 full, I can drain off the bottom of my Racor without loosening the lid, and the fuel/crud drawn off the bottom of the Racor should be replaced by fuel siphoned from the fuel tank, allowing no air into the system. If my fuel tank(s) were to be less than 1/3 full (below the level of the racor fuel) then if I opened the drain in the Racor, I presume air would enter through the Racor drain and bubble up towards the local high point (the top of the Racor) as fuel siphoned backward into my fuel tank, and that would require opening the lid of the Racor to refill with clean fuel. I am sure I have encountered this situation at some time but I don't actually remember seeing it happen. Larry MV Cariña On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Stan Nackdymon via Trawlers-and-Trawlering <trawlers@lists.trawlering.com> wrote: > Shut of the pet cocks to the engine and refill the filter from the top, to > the top. That should keep fuel in the lines to the engine. > > Stan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Trawlers-and-Trawlering [mailto:] On Behalf Of Patrick And Margie > Connor via Trawlers-and-Trawlering > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 22:31 > To: trawlers@lists.trawlering.com > Subject: T&T: Question on RACORS > > All, This is a really silly question to be asked by someone who's been > seriously boating for over 40 years and having boats with diesels for 30 > years, However, in all those years, I never had to use the drain on the > bottom of my RACOR filters. The time has come. I see the bottom 1/2 of > the > glass bowl is dirty dark fuel, while the top 1/2 looks good. Obviously I > know how to get the bad fuel out of the lower part of the bowl--open the > drain cock. My concern is; do I have to do anything special to keep from > getting air in the fuel system? I hate bleeding the fuel system, > especially > both of them. > > Thanks for your forth coming wise guidance! > > Patrick Connor > Prairie 36 "Cheers" > Ft Myers, FL > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change > email address, etc) go to: > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World Productions. > Unauthorized use is prohibited. > > > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change > email address, etc) go to: > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited. >

VT

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Thu, May 29, 2014 11:28 AM

Patrick,

My fuel polishing pump (Walbro) is downstream of my filters and after draining, I turn it on and it sucks the fuel and air thru the system back to the fuel tank.

It will leave a small gap of air at the top, but that appears to be of no consequence.

Lee
Cesme Turkey

-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick And Margie Connor
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 22:31

All, This is a really silly question to be asked by someone who's been seriously boating for over 40 years and having boats with diesels for 30 years, However, in all those years, I never had to use the drain on the bottom of my RACOR filters. The time has come…..

Patrick, My fuel polishing pump (Walbro) is downstream of my filters and after draining, I turn it on and it sucks the fuel and air thru the system back to the fuel tank. It will leave a small gap of air at the top, but that appears to be of no consequence. Lee Cesme Turkey -----Original Message----- From: Patrick And Margie Connor Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 22:31 All, This is a really silly question to be asked by someone who's been seriously boating for over 40 years and having boats with diesels for 30 years, However, in all those years, I never had to use the drain on the bottom of my RACOR filters. The time has come…..