Re: T&T: Anchor clone
Of course I can't speak for others but I can tell you why the CQR was our
primary anchor for 17 years and in every imaginable bottom. And the reason is
that it set well and quickly, reset well in reversing conditions and would dig
in deeper the harder we or the seas or the wind pulled on the boat. We have
anchored all along the ICW, the Chesapeake, all over Florida and the
Caribbean, oh and the Gulf of Mexico. The Only time the CQR would give us a
problem setting was in grass. And then our back up danforth and Bruce would
not dig in either. So we would have to search for a sandy spot to set it.
Highest winds we dealt with at anchor was 80 knots in the Chesapeake during a
hurricane and 100+ in Florida in a hurricane. In both cases we did have two
anchors out, one a 45 CQR and the other a 35 CQR. And yes it stowed well on
our bowsprit. So that is why it has been our preferred anchor. Chuck
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--- On Thu, 4/23/09, Faure, Marin marin.faure@boeing.com wrote:
The farm plow is restricted from burrowing and is curved to roll the
dirt - not what a plow anchor does.
Having been around farm plows some (the horse-drawn kind) and looking
carefully at anchors like CQRs, the plow anchor is basically two farm
plows welded together upside down. There are some differences in the
blade/fluke shape of course, but essentially it's the exact same idea
only instead of picking dirt up and rolling it over the "upside down
plow" anchor digs itself down into the dirt (bottom). But of course the
basic "flaw" is that the whole thing is pointed forward and
"streamlined" to move in a forward direction. Other than its wedging
action, the plow anchor's only resistance to moving forward is its
tendency to dig deeper in. This obviously works great most of the time
but if it can't dig itself deeper most of its resistance to forward
motion is gone. As opposed to an anchor with one or more flukes that
end up broadside to the direction of pull (Danforth, spade, etc.). The
only way they can move forward is to be levered completely out of the
bottom or be inserted in a material so soft that it simply "bulldozes"
the material ahead of it. It's been interesting to ask the long-time
sailors I've met why the CQR is so popular with the sailboat crowd, at
least in this area (PNW). The only answer I've ever gotten is that it
was one of the first anchors to stow well on sailboat's bow roller.
The link to the anchoring article that was posted a few messages back is
worth reading.
C. Marin Faure
Hi.........My experience with a CQR is the same as Chuck and Susans. Some
bottoms it takes longer to get a good set but it will generally set and hold
in most bottoms and never had a problem when the current reversed. A good all
around anchor.
Something that I have seen in the anchoring posts bothers me a bit. THIS ISN'T
DIRECTED AT ANYONE IN PARTICULAR. However a number of listees continue to
mention that different anchors are not good in grass, or that a certain one
is. I suggest to all that grass bottom areas should be avoided as these areas
are important habitat for small fish, crabs, manatees, conch ect. Anchoring
in these areas are prohibited in some places. Just like propeller scaring
harms the sea grass beds so does a line or chain running across them and an
anchor repeatedly dragged through them while trying to get it to set can do a
great deal of harm. It is generally possible to find a better place to anchor
. Yes, I'm sure many listees have stories about the time they just had to
anchor over grass, I'm just suggesting that we all avoid it as much as
possible.
Thank you.............Warren
On 4/23/09 2:57 PM, "Warren Hall" stardriver101@msn.com wrote:
I suggest to all that grass bottom areas should be avoided as these areas
are important habitat for small fish, crabs, manatees, conch ect.
As an aside, amazingly enough, grass has been growing in the Chesapeake to
the detriment of the water life. Studies have found that grass steals
valuable oxygen. Seems that pollution was encouraging the grass to grow.
Who knew?
Bob
Robert Calhoun Smith, Jr.
MV MARY KATHRYN
1977 Hatteras 58 LRC
Passing through Hobucken, NC
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I know that runoff from farm areas and lawns causes problems due to all the fertilizer that is picked up and deposited in our?rivers and oceans - thus promoting plant growth (not always good)?but don't all green plants MAKE oxygen - A good thing ?
Tim Behan
36' Monk
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As an aside, amazingly enough, grass has been growing in the Chesapeake to
the detriment of the water life. Studies have found that grass steals
valuable oxygen. Seems that pollution was encouraging the grass to grow.
tbehan6468@aol.com writes:
I know that runoff from farm areas and lawns causes problems due to all the
fertilizer that is picked up and deposited in our?rivers and oceans - thus
promoting plant growth (not always good)?but don't all green plants MAKE
oxygen - A good thing ?
Have a look at the Eutrophication entry in Wikipedia, it's pretty good:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eutrophication
Scott Welch
Product Manager, Open Text Collaboration and Social Media Group
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905 762 6101
"Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn
out." - John Wooden
Yes, I believe that when the excessive levels of plants die off, the decomposition process uses up a lot of?the dissolved oxygen in the water, thus?lowering the oxygen levels to critical levels.
Tim Behan
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Sent: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 12:03 pm
Subject: Re: T&T: Anchor clone (grass)
tbehan6468@aol.com?writes:
I know that runoff from farm areas and lawns causes problems due to all the fertilizer that is picked up and deposited in our?rivers and oceans - thus promoting plant growth (not always good)?but don't all green plants MAKE oxygen - A good thing ?
Have a look at the Eutrophication entry in Wikipedia, it's pretty good:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eutrophication
Scott Welch
Product Manager, Open Text Collaboration and Social Media Group
905 762 6101
"Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn out." - John Wooden
On 4/24/09 11:52 AM, "tbehan6468@aol.com" tbehan6468@aol.com wrote:
don't all green plants MAKE oxygen - A good thing ?
Tim, you are right...I said it backwards. It is the OVER-oxygenation that is
causing the problem....not a good thing.
Bob
Robert Calhoun Smith, Jr.
MV MARY KATHRYN
1977 Hatteras 58 LRC
Steaming past Belhaven, NC
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Twenty or twenty-five years ago Long Island Sound was said to be
'dying' because lack of oxygen (said to be caused by sewage pollution
and fertilizer runoff) was killing everything off. When it started to
'recover' among the first things to flourish were lobsters ... and for
some years there was a superabundance of them.
Bad thing - good thing. As usual, perspective depends on point of view.
Terry
Tamarack
don't all green plants MAKE oxygen - A good thing ?
Tim, you are right...I said it backwards. It is the OVER-oxygenation
that is
causing the problem....not a good thing.