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Re: [PUP] Documentation

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Dave Cooper
Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:29 PM

I'd add a few more:

  1. Make sure all crew members have Visa's in their passports for any country
    you contemplate visiting.
  2. Make sure all passports have a date of expiry beyond your intended return
    OR plan on a stop in a country where there is a Embassy or Consulate. The
    time to get passports renewed can be excruciating long. Nancy applied in May
    and just got it via FedEx from Barbados last week!!
  3. Make sure your EPRIB battery is up to date and that the registration also
    is. You may need your EPRIB MMSI number
  4. Copies of every prescription drug on board. Goof if the DEA boards you
    and also good to get refills at less than US prices.
  5. Copy of dinghy registration with numbers and OB numbers.
  6. List of cigarettes/cigars on board
  7. A few thousand in cash....$50 or $100's
  8. Watch the use of ATM machines. There can be large fees and theft of your
    account numbers. OTOH we've had good luck in places with checks written on
    US Banks. Hard to believe!
  9. We don't use credit cards again as they can be subject to local fees and
    surcharges that you don't find out about till you are long gone.
  10. Have copies of everything is a ditch bag. Then have copies of as many of
    the above in a pouch secretly stashed aboard in a place that would require
    destruction to get it if you didn't know it was there. Add a couple of
    thousand in cash and hope that you never ever have to see it. This is for
    the day that the boat is robbed clean.
    10 Have an old wallet or purse with some old expired CC cards and a few
    hundred in cash to surrender to any banditos that you find on the other end
    of a gun or knife. Makes them happy and might keep you & yours alive.

Must be more but that's all I can think of right now.

As always YMMV....

Dave & Nancy
Swan Song
Roughwater 58

I'd add a few more: 1. Make sure all crew members have Visa's in their passports for any country you contemplate visiting. 2. Make sure all passports have a date of expiry beyond your intended return OR plan on a stop in a country where there is a Embassy or Consulate. The time to get passports renewed can be excruciating long. Nancy applied in May and just got it via FedEx from Barbados last week!! 3. Make sure your EPRIB battery is up to date and that the registration also is. You may need your EPRIB MMSI number 4. Copies of every prescription drug on board. Goof if the DEA boards you and also good to get refills at less than US prices. 5. Copy of dinghy registration with numbers and OB numbers. 6. List of cigarettes/cigars on board 7. A few thousand in cash....$50 or $100's 8. Watch the use of ATM machines. There can be large fees and theft of your account numbers. OTOH we've had good luck in places with checks written on US Banks. Hard to believe! 9. We don't use credit cards again as they can be subject to local fees and surcharges that you don't find out about till you are long gone. 10. Have copies of everything is a ditch bag. Then have copies of as many of the above in a pouch secretly stashed aboard in a place that would require destruction to get it if you didn't know it was there. Add a couple of thousand in cash and hope that you never ever have to see it. This is for the day that the boat is robbed clean. 10 Have an old wallet or purse with some old expired CC cards and a few hundred in cash to surrender to any banditos that you find on the other end of a gun or knife. Makes them happy and might keep you & yours alive. Must be more but that's all I can think of right now. As always YMMV.... Dave & Nancy Swan Song Roughwater 58
RM
Robert Miller
Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:41 PM

Dave,

Is part 10 happening a lot, or is this a "just be prepared" point?  I have
no problem giving to the needy when they have a gun on me. LOL

Robert

  1. Have copies of everything is a ditch bag. Then have copies of as many of
    the above in a pouch secretly stashed aboard in a place that would require
    destruction to get it if you didn't know it was there. Add a couple of
    thousand in cash and hope that you never ever have to see it. This is for
    the day that the boat is robbed clean.
    10 Have an old wallet or purse with some old expired CC cards and a few
    hundred in cash to surrender to any banditos that you find on the other end
    of a gun or knife. Makes them happy and might keep you & yours alive.

Must be more but that's all I can think of right now.

As always YMMV....

Dave & Nancy
Swan Song
Roughwater 58


Dave, Is part 10 happening a lot, or is this a "just be prepared" point? I have no problem giving to the needy when they have a gun on me. LOL Robert > 10. Have copies of everything is a ditch bag. Then have copies of as many of > the above in a pouch secretly stashed aboard in a place that would require > destruction to get it if you didn't know it was there. Add a couple of > thousand in cash and hope that you never ever have to see it. This is for > the day that the boat is robbed clean. > 10 Have an old wallet or purse with some old expired CC cards and a few > hundred in cash to surrender to any banditos that you find on the other end > of a gun or knife. Makes them happy and might keep you & yours alive. > > Must be more but that's all I can think of right now. > > As always YMMV.... > > > Dave & Nancy > Swan Song > Roughwater 58 > _______________________________________________
JM
John Marshall
Fri, Oct 26, 2007 12:47 AM

During the time I lived in Asia (we just returned last year), the
standard practice in one's home was similar to what was suggested
below for a boat... in that case, we'd pick an obvious storage place
for valuables, and leaving expired CC, expired passport if you had
it, and cash equivalent to two months of a local laborer's salary.
Some bits and pieces of jewelry, maybe worth a few hundred more
dollars. (Most of the crooks there were imported laborers, so that
was only a few hundred USD). This was something that everyone who was
savvy did, locals and expats.

We were lucky and were never burglarized or intruded upon, but if we
had been, that kind of instant gratification will usually send the
thieves happily away. Even when the cc's and passports prove useless,
the cash and jewelry value is still substantial compared to their
income.

On a boat, I've been told you might want two levels of 'gratuity',
depending where you are. One that's pretty light weight and could be
construed as a 'gift' and doesn't include cash, but other things the
locals like but can't easily get. A number of small bags of cheap but
desirable goodies. That's useful in gray cases where you aren't sure
if you're about to become a victim of a crime or just have an
'enthusiastic visitor' who hasn't boarded your boat but is making you
nervous. A cheap send-off.

The second is for when its obvious you are getting robbed -- like the
dudes are in your boat.

In that case, they have to find or you have to make a nice act out of
giving up your valuables, which of course is stuff you can afford to
lose. The real valuables have to be hidden very well. You don't want
the crook to be staring at your safe and demanding you own it with
the end of a parang (aka machete).

Unless, of course, that's where you keep the trinkets, with the good
stuff and the major cash under the floor or something.  I'm
considered doing just that when I go south.

Do these last strategies make sense to those of you who have cruised
2nd/3rd world waters?

John Marshall
N55-Serendipity
Sequim Bay, WA

On Oct 25, 2007, at 3:41 PM, Robert Miller wrote:

Dave,

Is part 10 happening a lot, or is this a "just be prepared" point?
I have
no problem giving to the needy when they have a gun on me. LOL

Robert

10 Have an old wallet or purse with some old expired CC cards and
a few
hundred in cash to surrender to any banditos that you find on the
other end
of a gun or knife. Makes them happy and might keep you & yours alive.

Must be more but that's all I can think of right now.

As always YMMV....

Dave & Nancy
Swan Song
Roughwater 58



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During the time I lived in Asia (we just returned last year), the standard practice in one's home was similar to what was suggested below for a boat... in that case, we'd pick an obvious storage place for valuables, and leaving expired CC, expired passport if you had it, and cash equivalent to two months of a local laborer's salary. Some bits and pieces of jewelry, maybe worth a few hundred more dollars. (Most of the crooks there were imported laborers, so that was only a few hundred USD). This was something that everyone who was savvy did, locals and expats. We were lucky and were never burglarized or intruded upon, but if we had been, that kind of instant gratification will usually send the thieves happily away. Even when the cc's and passports prove useless, the cash and jewelry value is still substantial compared to their income. On a boat, I've been told you might want two levels of 'gratuity', depending where you are. One that's pretty light weight and could be construed as a 'gift' and doesn't include cash, but other things the locals like but can't easily get. A number of small bags of cheap but desirable goodies. That's useful in gray cases where you aren't sure if you're about to become a victim of a crime or just have an 'enthusiastic visitor' who hasn't boarded your boat but is making you nervous. A cheap send-off. The second is for when its obvious you are getting robbed -- like the dudes are in your boat. In that case, they have to find or you have to make a nice act out of giving up your valuables, which of course is stuff you can afford to lose. The real valuables have to be hidden very well. You don't want the crook to be staring at your safe and demanding you own it with the end of a parang (aka machete). Unless, of course, that's where you keep the trinkets, with the good stuff and the major cash under the floor or something. I'm considered doing just that when I go south. Do these last strategies make sense to those of you who have cruised 2nd/3rd world waters? John Marshall N55-Serendipity Sequim Bay, WA On Oct 25, 2007, at 3:41 PM, Robert Miller wrote: > Dave, > > Is part 10 happening a lot, or is this a "just be prepared" point? > I have > no problem giving to the needy when they have a gun on me. LOL > > Robert > >> >> 10 Have an old wallet or purse with some old expired CC cards and >> a few >> hundred in cash to surrender to any banditos that you find on the >> other end >> of a gun or knife. Makes them happy and might keep you & yours alive. >> >> Must be more but that's all I can think of right now. >> >> As always YMMV.... >> >> >> Dave & Nancy >> Swan Song >> Roughwater 58 >> _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power > > To unsubscribe send email to > passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com with the word > UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. > > Passagemaking Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World > Productions, formerly known as Trawler World Productions.