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Ekcine

Wed, Jan 26, 2005 1:38 PM

"Both boats came (to me) with drain plugs replaced
by 90 degree fittings and oil-resistant hose run out and up, secured above
sump
level, with a JIC flare fitting and plug"

Some variation of this sounds fairly standard for many of you with plumbed oil
change systems. My question is:
Doesn't this add a complexity to your boat that could cause trouble? Sort of
violates the KISS principle. My guess is that the trade-off of making the oil
change easy is worth the added complexity. Anybody have one of these systems
of fittings and tubing rupture while running? It would spill all your oil in
the bilge and cause you to shut down immediately. Not a desirable event.
Ed

"Both boats came (to me) with drain plugs replaced by 90 degree fittings and oil-resistant hose run out and up, secured above sump level, with a JIC flare fitting and plug" Some variation of this sounds fairly standard for many of you with plumbed oil change systems. My question is: Doesn't this add a complexity to your boat that could cause trouble? Sort of violates the KISS principle. My guess is that the trade-off of making the oil change easy is worth the added complexity. Anybody have one of these systems of fittings and tubing rupture while running? It would spill all your oil in the bilge and cause you to shut down immediately. Not a desirable event. Ed

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Keith

Wed, Jan 26, 2005 2:12 PM

The first thing out of my oil pan is a little ball valve which stays shut.
After that is the hose, which is capped at all times, should the ball valve
come open, which is highly unlikely.

Keith
__
What hair color do they put on the driver's licenses of bald men?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ekcine" ekcine@comcast.net

My guess is that the trade-off of making the oil

change easy is worth the added complexity. Anybody have one of these
systems
of fittings and tubing rupture while running?

The first thing out of my oil pan is a little ball valve which stays shut. After that is the hose, which is capped at all times, should the ball valve come open, which is highly unlikely. Keith __ What hair color do they put on the driver's licenses of bald men? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ekcine" <ekcine@comcast.net> My guess is that the trade-off of making the oil > change easy is worth the added complexity. Anybody have one of these > systems > of fittings and tubing rupture while running?

JM

Jim McCorison

Wed, Jan 26, 2005 2:44 PM

At 08:38 AM 1/26/2005 -0500, Ekcine wrote:

My guess is that the trade-off of making the oil change easy is worth the
added complexity. Anybody have one of these systems of fittings and tubing
rupture while running? It would spill all your oil in the bilge and cause
you to shut down immediately. Not a desirable event.

If you use the correct hoses and fittings this should not happen. Our
engine has external oil hoses that run to the cooler as do a heck of a lot
of other designs. These hoses are under constant pressure when running. You
don't give them a second thought other than to visually inspect them. The
drain line has no pressure on it, so it's not going to rupture in the
traditional sense of the word. A poor installation could cause it to chafe
through. But a proper installation should last a long time.

And, a easy to use oil change system increases the likelihood that the oil
will be changed when it should. Which actually increases the reliability in
the long run.

Jim

Jim McCorison
Starfish Marine
(619) 337-5370
http://www.starfishmarine.com

At 08:38 AM 1/26/2005 -0500, Ekcine wrote: >My guess is that the trade-off of making the oil change easy is worth the >added complexity. Anybody have one of these systems of fittings and tubing >rupture while running? It would spill all your oil in the bilge and cause >you to shut down immediately. Not a desirable event. If you use the correct hoses and fittings this should not happen. Our engine has external oil hoses that run to the cooler as do a heck of a lot of other designs. These hoses are under constant pressure when running. You don't give them a second thought other than to visually inspect them. The drain line has no pressure on it, so it's not going to rupture in the traditional sense of the word. A poor installation could cause it to chafe through. But a proper installation should last a long time. And, a easy to use oil change system increases the likelihood that the oil will be changed when it should. Which actually increases the reliability in the long run. Jim Jim McCorison Starfish Marine (619) 337-5370 http://www.starfishmarine.com

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