Before I find a mechanic or go digging into it myself, maybe someone out there has had this same problem and knows the answer.
I have a relatively new John Deere 4045 Turbo in my Trawler, 1900 hours, but they are all mine and all over the last 20 months. I had it installed new when I bought my 1983 De Fever a few years ago. It has always run perfectly, including starting. Always starts in a fraction of a second. This started after I changed oil a few days ago, but realistically, I do not think that has a thing to do with my new problem. This is, however, the first time I used a non John Deere oil filter ( I used a Wix). I could see that if there is a back flow valve in the filter not working and the engine momentarily has no oil pressure that could be the problem, but this engine does not shut itself down for low oil, it only sets off an alarm. Besides, when I first change oil filters and it takes a while to fill up and get pressure, the engine has always run fine. The actual problem is that engine starts immediately, then immediately dies. Then I crank it for maybe 5 to 10 seconds, and
it starts runs perfectly all day. While running there is no speed variation or any such thing. Just runs perfectly as always. It seems like it starts and then immediately runs out of fuel, then with some cranking, gets fuel again and stays fine all day. No vacuum reading on the filters, no apparent leaks in the fuel lines. No leaks from the weep hole on the lift pump. If I restart the engine after it has been shut down for a few minutes, as when refueling, it starts and runs fine. It only seems to do this when it has been off overnight.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Jake
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fine. The actual problem is that engine starts immediately, then
immediately dies. Then I crank it for maybe 5 to 10 seconds, and
I think you can assume that you have an air leak in the fuel system. It
walks like an air leak, it talks like an air leak...
One way to test this is to try priming the fuel system before you
startup after a night with the engine off. If it then starts and runs
without the problem of stopping, you have pretty well proven that it is
a fuel problem.
Whatever the source of the air, it is a pretty small leak. It may be
aggravating to find.
Mike
Capt. Mike Maurice
Tigard Oregon(Near Portland)
Jake,
The oil filter is not the problem; I've been using Wix filters on my Deere
4039 natural for years. Perhaps in changing the oil filter you bumped or
moved some part of the fuel piping.
It sounds to me like an air leak in the fuel system. Air leaks in, fuel
does not leak out, so it's very hard to find the problem. The leak will be
in the area that is under vacuum, between the tank and the fuel lift pump on
the engine. Try tightening every connection in this area, and the problem
may magically vanish. When my Deere had only a few hundred hours on it, I
had a similar problem. When I put my wrench on one of the engine-mounted
fuel pipes, it turned a full quarter-turn, and the problem went away.
Turning the nut required breaking the factory applied paint around it, so it
took a bit of torque.
Mark Richter, m/v Winnie the Pooh
homeport Ortona, FL on the Okeechobee Waterway
lying Elizabeth City, NC
Jake2124@aol.com writes:
The actual problem is that engine starts immediately, then immediately
dies. Then I crank it for maybe 5 to 10 seconds, and
it starts runs perfectly all day. While running there is no speed
variation or any such thing. Just runs perfectly as always. It seems like
it starts and then immediately runs out of fuel, then with some cranking,
gets fuel again and stays fine all day.
I know this is a bit of a leap, but did you by any chance take on new fuel?
My daily commuting car is a VW Golf TDI, and after taking on a full tank of
diesel in Buffalo, I experienced absolutely identical symptoms. After the
next tankful, things were back to normal. I don't believe that there was any
water in the fuel, the filter would have caught that. I know that there is
quite a number of formulation changes going on with low sulfur diesel, and I
assume that may have had something to do with it.
Scott Welch
FirstClass Product Manager
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