Galley remodel
We are planning galley remodel. Any suggestions on elect. Cooktop and microwave. We do not want to use propane for risk of leak in bilge and explosion. We are trying to limit generator use and limit pull on batteries. We cruise in 36' albin trawler. Thanks in advance.
Barry young
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Tough decision because microwave is high draw initially and cooktops also. I'd look into a 120 volt induction cook top and microwave that you can drive off an inverter 30 amp if possible). Also, we use a butane suitcase (small, easy to store) burner (like omelet chef style) that uses the butane canisters that we store in plastic ziplocks outside (same as propane as is heavier then air). Works very, very well for sautéing and boiling water. The burner and canisters are cheap < $40 at Walmart, Bass Pro, amazon etc. The butanes are problems to ship but usually are sold in same store as the burner.
Joe Pica
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We are planning galley remodel. Any suggestions on elect. Cooktop and microwave. We do not want to use propane for risk of leak in bilge and explosion. We are trying to limit generator use and limit pull on batteries. We cruise in 36' albin trawler.
On 09/19/2014 01:54 PM, Barry Young via Trawlers-and-Trawlering wrote:
... Any suggestions on elect. Cooktop and microwave. We do not want to use propane for risk of leak in bilge and explosion. We are trying to limit generator use and limit pull on batteries.
We went with a two-burner induction unit -- much more power-efficient
(and safer) than radiant electric burners, but you do need to have
ferromagnetic cookware such as All-Clad, le Creuset, or their
knock-offs. One great feature of induction is that you can slide a
silicone baking sheet between the burner and the pan, virtually
eliminating the need for fiddles/pot-holders.
The problem we had was that there was not a two-burner model available
in 120vac, so we went with a European-spec 220vac unit and added a
step-up transformer so we could run it off our 120vac inverter. A
simpler solution, if you have the space, is to get multiple
single-burner units or "hobs," which are widely available in 120.
Induction units work fine on MSW power, but if you plan to run a
microwave on an inverter, you'd best have a true sine-wave model. Modern
microwaves are all pretty comparable when it comes to efficiency; I
would get the highest-wattage unit your system will tolerate. Units
that draw less power are a false economy because you'll just need to run
them that much longer, using the same number of watt-hours in the end.
We went with a Sharp "over-counter" model because it bolts to the wall
and fits our galley, whereas the range-hood models are too wide for our
application.
-Sean
m/y Vector
lying Pasadena, MD
http://OurOdyssey.BlogSpot.com
Wallas cook top? http://www.wallas.fi/index.php?id=22
No personal experience, the one person I directly know who installed one likes theirs...
Unstained a dedicated fuel supply and using a synthetic fuel ala Klean-strip goes a long ways to solving fiddliness.
I too was looking for a way to eliminate Propane onboard, was looking at both electric as well as the Wallas. My search got stopped when I was unable to locate a diesel fired BBQ :-)
-al-
Viking Star
45' Monk Sr. / McQueen
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Recently came across a Norwegian sailor that had a diesel fired cooktop in his galley (two burner model, old, like the boat)
He was cooking outside in his cockpit using a camping gas stove.
He reported that the cooktop make the sailboat way too hot way too fast, which is tolerable where he came from, but not where he is now.
As for a diesel fired BBQ, in Izmir, I have seen one chicken seller using diesel fuel to BBQ his take away chickens. While there was a distinctive ( read unpleasant) odor around the unit, the chicken did not taste of diesel fuel.
He was using a hi pressure fuel injection pump from am old Toyota and from what I could tell, the holes that the fuel was coming out from were quite small.
Have no idea how he lights the fuel.
Did put out an impressive amount of heat in the winter when we tripped over it.
But, have seen only one.
Most of these take away chicken cookers using bottled gas to cook the chickens. No pump needed but in the winter, have to keep the tank above 4-5C for it to work.
Lee
Myrina
On 2014-09-20, at 1558, Al Thomason via Trawlers-and-Trawlering trawlers@lists.trawlering.com wrote:
Wallas cook top? http://www.wallas.fi/index.php?id=22 …was looking for a way to eliminate Propane onboard, was looking at both electric as well as the Wallas. My search got stopped when I was unable to locate a diesel fired BBQ :-)
Barry, when we built LeeZe, had the same quandary. Looked at the induction units and diesel fired cooktops and eventually settled on propane hard piped in and certified to Lloyds’ specs. The tanks sit outside in a box above the galley so the pipe run is quite short.
As an added benny, we use the gas to run the BBQ on the aft deck.
Have determined that portage canisters are a PITA.
The oven is a combo oven, microwave, and broiler oven with a microwave output of 900 watts, 3200 watts in oven mode (max)
Battery bank is a 1250 amp-hr traction bank at 24 VDC feeding two 3 KW inverters sync’d so that to the oven, it appears as a 6 KW power supply.
Oven is used more in summer in microwave mode, and in winter, maybe 20 % of its use is in oven mode.
Went with propane because did NOT want to put all my cooking eggs in one basket (electric).
If you follow the rules, my feeling is that propane beats out an all electric galley.
YMMV
Good Luck
Lee
Myrina Gr
On 2014-09-19, at 2054, Barry Young via Trawlers-and-Trawlering trawlers@lists.trawlering.com wrote:
We are planning galley remodel..