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Re: TWL: Support Your Local (US) Power Squadron

M
mttortuga@juno.com
Sun, Dec 16, 2001 4:04 PM

but it's clear

that
US membership must be plummeting. And that's probably a bad thing.
When
I read stories by Americans about their trips on inland waterways,
they
seem to always contain unhappy comments about bad manners and
unsafe
practices by other boaters, the very thing the PS courses strive to
avoid or correct.

Why has the PS fallen out of favour in the US? Are Americans joining
the
Coast Guard Auxiliary instead?

I was very interested in joining the PS a while back. I looked up the web
site and all the info on classes and such was over 6 months out of date.
I sent a Email to the listed address and received no reply. I guess it is
a restrictive club that is not interested in new members

Morley

but it's clear > that > US membership must be plummeting. And that's probably a bad thing. > When > I read stories by Americans about their trips on inland waterways, > they > seem to always contain unhappy comments about bad manners and > unsafe > practices by other boaters, the very thing the PS courses strive to > avoid or correct. > > Why has the PS fallen out of favour in the US? Are Americans joining > the > Coast Guard Auxiliary instead? I was very interested in joining the PS a while back. I looked up the web site and all the info on classes and such was over 6 months out of date. I sent a Email to the listed address and received no reply. I guess it is a restrictive club that is not interested in new members Morley
C
cculotta@iamerica.net
Mon, Dec 17, 2001 11:29 PM

Morley B English wrote:

but it's clear

that
US membership must be plummeting. And that's probably a bad thing.

I was very interested in joining the PS a while back.
I sent a Email to the listed address and received no reply. I guess it is
a restrictive club that is not interested in new members

Morley,

All local squadrons want ( and need) new members.
I  suggest that you contact the squadron in your area and talk to them.
As you know they ( we) are all volunteers. so , if something is not 100%
correct we do have families and businesses to run.
We teach thousands of people every year in classes from basic boating
through celestial with  ALL VOLUNTEER TEACHERS.
The courses are designed  with the beginner in mind for pleasure boaters. To
counter what one or two said about them being too simple or not challenging
enough they are not designed to get you  a six pack license. I hasten to add
that if you have taken  even some USPS  courses you will find the six pack
material much easier to learn.
CCC-
LETS ROLL!
Charles and Pat Culotta
Patterson, La.
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/charlesculotta/

Morley B English wrote: > but it's clear > > that > > US membership must be plummeting. And that's probably a bad thing. > > > I was very interested in joining the PS a while back. > I sent a Email to the listed address and received no reply. I guess it is > a restrictive club that is not interested in new members > > Morley, All local squadrons want ( and need) new members. I suggest that you contact the squadron in your area and talk to them. As you know they ( we) are all volunteers. so , if something is not 100% correct we do have families and businesses to run. We teach thousands of people every year in classes from basic boating through celestial with ALL VOLUNTEER TEACHERS. The courses are designed with the beginner in mind for pleasure boaters. To counter what one or two said about them being too simple or not challenging enough they are not designed to get you a six pack license. I hasten to add that if you have taken even some USPS courses you will find the six pack material much easier to learn. CCC- LETS ROLL! Charles and Pat Culotta Patterson, La. Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/charlesculotta/
J
jgaquin@earthlink.net
Tue, Dec 18, 2001 4:17 AM

From: "Morley B English" mttortuga@juno.com

I sent a Email to the listed address and received no reply. I guess it

is

a restrictive club that is not interested in new members

Hi, Morley......
Oddly, I had a similar experience a few years back.  Filled out a card at
the Boat Show, talked to the two fellows.  Called the number they gave me,
left a message.  Never heard a word.  Too bad.

Regards,

John Gaquin
Brefnie Queen, 32' Luhrs
blocked and wrapped @
Bass River Marina, West Dennis,  MA

From: "Morley B English" <mttortuga@juno.com> > > > I sent a Email to the listed address and received no reply. I guess it is > a restrictive club that is not interested in new members Hi, Morley...... Oddly, I had a similar experience a few years back. Filled out a card at the Boat Show, talked to the two fellows. Called the number they gave me, left a message. Never heard a word. Too bad. Regards, John Gaquin Brefnie Queen, 32' Luhrs blocked and wrapped @ Bass River Marina, West Dennis, MA
D
daveg@cencon.org
Tue, Dec 18, 2001 6:46 AM

John Gauqin said:

From: "Morley B English" mttortuga@juno.com

I sent a Email to the listed address and received no reply. I guess it

is

a restrictive club that is not interested in new members

Hi, Morley......
Oddly, I had a similar experience a few years back.  Filled out a card at
the Boat Show, talked to the two fellows.  Called the number they gave me,
left a message.  Never heard a word.  Too bad.

Well John, at least the fellows at the boat show booth would speak to
you.  I approached the USPS booth twice at a regional boat show, but the
three bearded, salty-looking admirals (to judge by their dress whites
and gold braid) were much too busy discussing organizational affairs to
speak with an outsider.

And Charles Culotta wrote:

All local squadrons want ( and need) new members.
I  suggest that you contact the squadron in your area and talk to them.

I always enjoy your posts to TWL, Charles, but, at least in my area, the
USPS gives no sign of being interested in fresh blood.  I found the
local squadron had a listed phone number.  Only an answering machine,
but that's fair enough; it is a volunteer organization.  Over the course
of several months I left three messages on their machine.  Never heard
from them.

Well, that's all anecdotal, and no doubt the USPS does a great deal of
good.  But it seems obvious from many comments in this thread that I'm
not alone in my perception.

Sorry to be throwing still more fuel on the fire...  :(

--

Dave Goodman
M/V Dragonfly
Sarasota, FL

John Gauqin said: > From: "Morley B English" <mttortuga@juno.com> > > > > > I sent a Email to the listed address and received no reply. I guess it > is > > a restrictive club that is not interested in new members > > Hi, Morley...... > Oddly, I had a similar experience a few years back. Filled out a card at > the Boat Show, talked to the two fellows. Called the number they gave me, > left a message. Never heard a word. Too bad. Well John, at least the fellows at the boat show booth would speak to you. I approached the USPS booth twice at a regional boat show, but the three bearded, salty-looking admirals (to judge by their dress whites and gold braid) were much too busy discussing organizational affairs to speak with an outsider. And Charles Culotta wrote: > All local squadrons want ( and need) new members. > I suggest that you contact the squadron in your area and talk to them. I always enjoy your posts to TWL, Charles, but, at least in my area, the USPS gives no sign of being interested in fresh blood. I found the local squadron had a listed phone number. Only an answering machine, but that's fair enough; it is a volunteer organization. Over the course of several months I left three messages on their machine. Never heard from them. Well, that's all anecdotal, and no doubt the USPS does a great deal of good. But it seems obvious from many comments in this thread that I'm not alone in my perception. Sorry to be throwing still more fuel on the fire... :( -- Dave Goodman M/V Dragonfly Sarasota, FL
C
cculotta@iamerica.net
Wed, Dec 19, 2001 1:59 AM

From: "Morley B English" mttortuga@juno.com

I sent a Email to the listed address and received no reply. I guess it

is

a restrictive club that is not interested in new members

Hi, Morley......
Oddly, I had a similar experience a few years back.

Well John, at least the fellows at the boat show booth would speak to
you.  I approached the USPS booth twice at a regional boat show, but the
three bearded, salty-looking admirals (to judge by their dress whites
and gold braid) were much too busy discussing organizational affairs to
speak with an outsider.

And Charles Culotta wrote:

All local squadrons want ( and need) new members.
I  suggest that you contact the squadron in your area and talk to them.

I always enjoy your posts to TWL, Charles, but, at least in my area, the
USPS gives no sign of being interested in fresh blood.

Sorry to be throwing still more fuel on the fire...  :(

Dave Goodman

Guys,
Unfortunately there  are (probably) too darn many as you have described.
It is true that your experiences are anecdotal however that is only an excuse
as there is no reason for such ill treatment.
I SHALL bring this to the attention of the powers that be.
I imagine there are a number of USPS members on this list , I suggest that ALL
of us contact the home office!!!  e mail addresses are on the inside back cover
of ENSIGN.
CCC--
LETS ROLL!
Charles and Pat Culotta
Patterson, La.
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/charlesculotta/

> > From: "Morley B English" <mttortuga@juno.com> > > > > > > > I sent a Email to the listed address and received no reply. I guess it > > is > > > a restrictive club that is not interested in new members > > > > Hi, Morley...... > > Oddly, I had a similar experience a few years back. > > Well John, at least the fellows at the boat show booth would speak to > you. I approached the USPS booth twice at a regional boat show, but the > three bearded, salty-looking admirals (to judge by their dress whites > and gold braid) were much too busy discussing organizational affairs to > speak with an outsider. > > And Charles Culotta wrote: > > > All local squadrons want ( and need) new members. > > I suggest that you contact the squadron in your area and talk to them. > > I always enjoy your posts to TWL, Charles, but, at least in my area, the > USPS gives no sign of being interested in fresh blood. > > Sorry to be throwing still more fuel on the fire... :( > > Dave Goodman Guys, Unfortunately there are (probably) too darn many as you have described. It is true that your experiences are anecdotal however that is only an excuse as there is no reason for such ill treatment. I SHALL bring this to the attention of the powers that be. I imagine there are a number of USPS members on this list , I suggest that ALL of us contact the home office!!! e mail addresses are on the inside back cover of ENSIGN. CCC-- LETS ROLL! Charles and Pat Culotta Patterson, La. Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/charlesculotta/
T
tobyboat@worldnet.att.net
Wed, Dec 19, 2001 6:12 PM

there is no reason for such ill treatment.

I SHALL bring this to the attention of the powers that be.
I imagine there are a number of USPS members on this list , I suggest that

ALL

of us contact the home office!!!  e mail addresses are on the inside back

cover of ENSIGN.

Gee Charlie Maybe that is the Point ! The people listed on the back cover
of the Ensign stopped listening years ago - might be to busy polishing their
uniform  buttons or filling out their expense accoutant reports ...

A sad state of affairs for Chapy's Navy .. I agree.

All the best
Ken  D/Lt

there is no reason for such ill treatment. > I SHALL bring this to the attention of the powers that be. > I imagine there are a number of USPS members on this list , I suggest that ALL > of us contact the home office!!! e mail addresses are on the inside back cover of ENSIGN. Gee Charlie Maybe that is the Point ! The people listed on the back cover of the Ensign stopped listening years ago - might be to busy polishing their uniform buttons or filling out their expense accoutant reports ... A sad state of affairs for Chapy's Navy .. I agree. All the best Ken D/Lt
O
oilpans@thepoint.net
Sun, Dec 23, 2001 2:41 AM

Dave, Morley & all,
Have been a member of the Louisville KY area PS for about 15 yrs. Have found
dedicated, hard working and very freindly and outgoing. And they constantly
recruiting boaters to take there safe boating classes with no requirement to
join. You're recruited for membership after this class. Their attitude
pretty represents they attitudes of people in our location. No snobs in our
boating groups, just maybe a few individuals. Sorry for your problems. It's
a dam shame a few "bad apples" can be assumed to represent a very worthwhile
group.
As stated by Charles the PS courses made the "six pack" alot easier.
Cheers,
Dick

Dick Schroder
Pan Handler Gulfstar '43
Floating happily in Holmes Beach FL

This sure beats an Indiana winter WOW!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Goodman" daveg@cencon.org
To: trawler-world-list@samurai.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: TWL: Support Your Local (US) Power Squadron

John Gauqin said:

From: "Morley B English" mttortuga@juno.com

I sent a Email to the listed address and received no reply. I guess

it

is

a restrictive club that is not interested in new members

Hi, Morley......
Oddly, I had a similar experience a few years back.  Filled out a card

at

the Boat Show, talked to the two fellows.  Called the number they gave

me,

left a message.  Never heard a word.  Too bad.

Well John, at least the fellows at the boat show booth would speak to
you.  I approached the USPS booth twice at a regional boat show, but the
three bearded, salty-looking admirals (to judge by their dress whites
and gold braid) were much too busy discussing organizational affairs to
speak with an outsider.

And Charles Culotta wrote:

All local squadrons want ( and need) new members.
I  suggest that you contact the squadron in your area and talk to them.

I always enjoy your posts to TWL, Charles, but, at least in my area, the
USPS gives no sign of being interested in fresh blood.  I found the
local squadron had a listed phone number.  Only an answering machine,
but that's fair enough; it is a volunteer organization.  Over the course
of several months I left three messages on their machine.  Never heard
from them.

Well, that's all anecdotal, and no doubt the USPS does a great deal of
good.  But it seems obvious from many comments in this thread that I'm
not alone in my perception.

Sorry to be throwing still more fuel on the fire...  :(

--

Dave Goodman
M/V Dragonfly
Sarasota, FL

Dave, Morley & all, Have been a member of the Louisville KY area PS for about 15 yrs. Have found dedicated, hard working and very freindly and outgoing. And they constantly recruiting boaters to take there safe boating classes with no requirement to join. You're recruited for membership after this class. Their attitude pretty represents they attitudes of people in our location. No snobs in our boating groups, just maybe a few individuals. Sorry for your problems. It's a dam shame a few "bad apples" can be assumed to represent a very worthwhile group. As stated by Charles the PS courses made the "six pack" alot easier. Cheers, Dick Dick Schroder Pan Handler Gulfstar '43 Floating happily in Holmes Beach FL This sure beats an Indiana winter WOW! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Goodman" <daveg@cencon.org> To: <trawler-world-list@samurai.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:46 AM Subject: Re: TWL: Support Your Local (US) Power Squadron > John Gauqin said: > > > From: "Morley B English" <mttortuga@juno.com> > > > > > > > I sent a Email to the listed address and received no reply. I guess it > > is > > > a restrictive club that is not interested in new members > > > > Hi, Morley...... > > Oddly, I had a similar experience a few years back. Filled out a card at > > the Boat Show, talked to the two fellows. Called the number they gave me, > > left a message. Never heard a word. Too bad. > > Well John, at least the fellows at the boat show booth would speak to > you. I approached the USPS booth twice at a regional boat show, but the > three bearded, salty-looking admirals (to judge by their dress whites > and gold braid) were much too busy discussing organizational affairs to > speak with an outsider. > > And Charles Culotta wrote: > > > All local squadrons want ( and need) new members. > > I suggest that you contact the squadron in your area and talk to them. > > I always enjoy your posts to TWL, Charles, but, at least in my area, the > USPS gives no sign of being interested in fresh blood. I found the > local squadron had a listed phone number. Only an answering machine, > but that's fair enough; it is a volunteer organization. Over the course > of several months I left three messages on their machine. Never heard > from them. > > Well, that's all anecdotal, and no doubt the USPS does a great deal of > good. But it seems obvious from many comments in this thread that I'm > not alone in my perception. > > Sorry to be throwing still more fuel on the fire... :( > > -- > > Dave Goodman > M/V Dragonfly > Sarasota, FL