All hands--
Since the List seems to be back at full throttle after the holidays, let me
pose a question:
What are the top 10 trawlers of all time?
That is, name the boats designed for voyaging, cruising and living aboard
that, in your opinion, are truly outstanding, significant, appealing,
influential, innovative and desirable. Identify specific models rather than
simply makes. Include one-offs as well as production boats.
Let's see:
Robert Beebe's Passagemaker
Krogen 42 Pilothouse
Nordhavn 46
Mainship 34 . . . but which Grand Banks?
Can you name 10 boats?
Quite frankly, I don't know of an any more knowledgeable group of trawler
crawlers anywhere, so why should not TWList subscribers become the arbiters
of what's what in the trawler world?
Let's hear your candidates for the best trawler yachts of all time!
Please post your submissions to mailto:trawler-world-list@samurai.com and
us the words "Top 10 Trawlers" as your subject line.
--Georgs
Georgs Kolesnikovs
Listmeister of Trawler World Online at http://www.trawlerworld.com
To post a message to the list, address it to trawler-world-list@samurai.com
List archives are at http://www.samurai.com/lists/
I'd like to request that, for the benefit of us that aren't familiar with the
various designs, that responders tell WHY a nominee should be considered.
Thank you,
Rebecca
Georgs Kolesnikovs wrote:
Identify specific models rather than
simply makes. Include one-offs as well as production boats.
Let's hear your candidates for the best trawler yachts of all time!
On Tue, 29 Dec 1998 09:24:24 -0500 Georgs Kolesnikovs gxk@interlog.com
writes:
What are the top 10 trawlers of all time?
I would like to nominate two semi-displacement trawlers:
Alaskan 48 - the original boats were wood with a pilot house, portuguese
bridge, and "europa" or "sedan" style saloon. This boat was the fore
runner of the pilot house design that is popular today. She was a trend
setter in the early days. Even after almost 30 years, this design
precedent can be seen in many of the boats that are on the market today -
Flemming 55, Krogen 58, Nordhavn 50, 57, Ocean Alexander 50 Mk 1, DeFever
49, and many others. This model will continue to influence trawler
design way into the 21st C.
Hatteras 48 LRC - A top of the line (expensive), well built, out of the
box capable of extended offshore cruising at "trawler" speeds. An
adaptation of the Alaskan design theme. A whole bunch of this model was
sold and after 20 years, they still command their original cost or more
on the used market today. Now that is staying power. This boat made
the concept of "trawlering" popular and acceptable with the monied,
landed gentry.
Limiting the choice to the top 10 is going to be tough. The trawler
concept is still in it's infancy and growing. Most of the designs up to
this point have been evolutionary - sort of a continuum, one design
evolving from another. It is probably too early to accurately predict
which boats are going to be truly influential. The only sure bet is
Passagemaker.
tempus fugit
Patrick
tempus fugit
Patrick
You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html
or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Hi,
Interesting way to do this Georgs, no ground rules, no standards, just
opinion. I'm not sure that this is worth the effort, but here goes. I've
added "why" as it seems to me we need more than just opinion.
We'd add:
Both of the Willard trawlers. They have efficient and sturdy hulls and
truly could go anywhere in relative safety. They are economical to run and
the acquisition price is (was?) not prohibitive. Not great liveaboard
boats, especially the 30, but adequate for a couple. While we like
pilothouses, the conventional version is probably a better boat in terms of
use of space.
We also suggest the Krogen 48 series (Whaleback, North Sea and
Conventional). They have excellent sea keeping qualities together with very
nice liveaboard space, especially the Whaleback. In our search for an
ocean-going liveaboard boat, the Whaleback was second on our short list (the
KK42 was the first) and it has stayed there, while many other designs have
come and gone for various reasons. The Krogens have reasonably good fit and
finish, excellent if you consider the price (well, maybe this is no longer
true with the price hikes over the past few years).
How about the Krogen Manatee? While it is no ocean crosser, it is a good
liveaboard for a couple and is seaworthy enough for coastal cruising. Both
the acquisition and the maintenance prices are very reasonable, and they
just sip fuel. It would not be on my personal short list and has never been,
but if cost were a factor, this would certainly move it up the list.
You'd have to add the Defever pilothouse design, best exemplified by the 48
"woody" or the DeFever 49, in its many versions, sizes and copies (e.g.,
Alaskan, Fleming). You could probably list ten of these alone. The
Portuguese bridge and the stout hull make it a good sea boat and the engine
room is nearly stand-up (well, if your are real short it is stand-up).
Maurice & Louise-Ann
Boatless in Singapore
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-trawler-world-list@samurai.com
[mailto:owner-trawler-world-list@samurai.com] On Behalf Of Georgs
Kolesnikovs
Sent: 29-Dec-98 10:24 PM
To: Trawler World List
Subject: Top 10 Trawlers of All Time
What are the top 10 trawlers of all time?
That is, name the boats designed for voyaging, cruising and living aboard
that, in your opinion, are truly outstanding, significant, appealing,
influential, innovative and desirable. Identify specific models rather than
simply makes. Include one-offs as well as production boats.