But what about the other date on the tombstone? You would need to work out the calibration of the clock in the delivery room on your 0th birthday, and hope that your mother's doctor was also a time nut...... >> One can only hope that the local coroner is also a Time-Nut, so that time >> of death can be determined with suitable accuracy and precision. Does >> anybody know how many bits of precision are used on tombstones these >> days?

A valid point has been brought up. What does a Time-Nut do with his equipment when he dies. Actually, I am serious here. My little girl, who just turned four, is already an expert with the soldering iron and she can name most components. Actually she is very good with microwave components and she can name all the waveguide types, magnetrons, attenuators etc, etc.. So, I am lucky I guess (so far). I hope she will grow up to be a proper EE like her Dad. But what if she is not? What am I to do with my equipment if I go to the big Atomic Clock in the Sky? I would definitely not sell it while I was alive! What we need here is maybe a Time-Nut Museum. A place where our trusted equipment can go and spend their remaining days with other equipment like them. Otherwise, I just might request to be buried all my stuff. Like in a small mausoleum. I am only half joking! George, N2FGX P.S. I know I haven't said anything here for a while. Too busy raising a little EE and working. 73's to all! Quoting Daniel Schultz <n8fgv@usa.net>: > But what about the other date on the tombstone? You would need to > work out the > calibration of the clock in the delivery room on your 0th birthday, and hope > that your mother's doctor was also a time nut...... > >>> One can only hope that the local coroner is also a Time-Nut, so that time >>> of death can be determined with suitable accuracy and precision. Does >>> anybody know how many bits of precision are used on tombstones these >>> days? > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >

Well, you don't own boat-anchors any more, they are burial-at-sea-anchors now. Steve On 25 October 2010 15:54, <xaos@darksmile.net> wrote: > A valid point has been brought up. What does a Time-Nut do with his > equipment when he dies. > > Actually, I am serious here. > > My little girl, who just turned four, is already an expert with the > soldering iron and she can name most components. Actually she is very good > with microwave components and she can name all the waveguide types, > magnetrons, attenuators etc, etc.. > > So, I am lucky I guess (so far). I hope she will grow up to be a proper EE > like her Dad. > > But what if she is not? What am I to do with my equipment if I go to the big > Atomic Clock in the Sky? > > I would definitely not sell it while I was alive! What we need here is maybe > a Time-Nut Museum. A place where our trusted equipment can go and spend > their remaining days with other equipment like them. > > Otherwise, I just might request to be buried all my stuff. Like in a small > mausoleum. I am only half joking! > > George, N2FGX > > P.S. I know I haven't said anything here for a while. Too busy raising a > little EE and working. 73's to all! > > Quoting Daniel Schultz <n8fgv@usa.net>: > >> But what about the other date on the tombstone? You would need to  work >> out the >> calibration of the clock in the delivery room on your 0th birthday, and >> hope >> that your mother's doctor was also a time nut...... >> >>>> One can only hope that the local coroner is also a Time-Nut, so that >>>> time >>>> of death can be determined with suitable accuracy and precision. Does >>>> anybody know how many bits of precision are used on tombstones these >>>> days? >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV & G8KVD The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once. - Einstein

> A valid point has been brought up. What does a Time-Nut do with his > equipment when he dies. > Actually, I am serious here. Think about it ahead of time and leave a note for whomever gets to take care of your estate. (and/or send a copy to your geek friends who may be helping them) Do you want to sell it, or give it away to a good home? I figure my toys fall into several piles: Things like pliers and meters are generally useful. Things like soldering irons, scopes, and counters are generally useful, but only to geeks. The parts box(es) of resistors, chips, ... probably fall into this pile. Things like TBolts and Z3801As are specialized and probably only useful to a time-nut or ham. Some gear may be primarily sentimental. If you have a working LORAN receiver, it's a lot more interesting if you also have a dummy LORAN transmitter to feed it, and then probably only interesting to a time-nut. Some "junk" may be interesting as a reminder because it looks neat even if the new owner doesn't have a use for it (or even know what it is). I'm thinking of things like microwave plumbing. When my parents moved out of their house, I found my grandfather's micrometer in my dad's junk collection. I don't use it much, but it's a nice reminder. I have a circuit board from a computer I worked on 20+ years ago. Those were good times. -- These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam.

OK, this is an interesting problem, but don't take anything I say seriously, unless, of course, the shoe fits. Consider the end stages of TNI. You have acquired everything that can be acquired. Nothing holds any secrets from you, and so there are no challenges left. Agreed, some of us will run out of money or space before we reach that state. The last question may be, "What happens if I compare three hydrogen masers for a full year, to ascertain the affects of gravity on hydrogen masers?" In almost all cases, your wife (collecting big things is a testosterone-induced behavior) will be beside herself with worry about how to recover the money you squandered on your collection when you die. Her only recourse may be to call a junk collector and pay to have it all removed, especially the stuff in rented storage lockers. The problem of testosterone-induced hoarding behavior (if that fits) is that basements, rooms, and storage lockers fill up. By hoarding, you withhold interesting things from beginning time- nuts -- people who have questions but no equipment with which to find answers. If you expect the value of your hoard to increase, consider that you are subject to the rate of technological change. You'll be lucky to get 10 cents on the dollar for the bleeding edge stuff you bought. The nostalgia affect peaks and dies as the old folks die. On top of that, time is an esoteric field. Put something up on eBay and you'll be very lucky to get 100 people looking at it. So do your loved ones (if that fits) and the next generation of time-nuts a favor and disperse your collection. If it's museum quality, donate it to a museum (if you can find one that will take it - you won't be alone). Larry Ware on Jack's Boat Anchor list would sell stuff at low prices to the guy who wrote the best story about what he'd do with it. The problem of dating the tombstone is easily solved. First, you pick a time to die and work it out with your relatives so that no one will stop you -- perhaps because you didn't get rid of your junk. Then you pick a means of death that can be started by an electrical signal, like a solenoid-driven knife that severs the thread suspending a sword far above your heart. Finally, you set up a count-down clock that will provide the signal. Now you can tell the engraver what to put on your tombstone. You are relieved of the uncertainty that goes with not knowing when you will die. Your loved ones can get bank loans based on what's in your will. It's a win-win situation, as long as the sword doesn't miss. Happy Halloween, Bill Hawkins

Only to die and in a split second the mysteries of the universe will open to you and you will realize that "time" was relative and subjective and can be varied by certain "jokers". And, most importantly, your grandfather's "grandfather clock" (you know, the one in the living room with the gargoyles) is really the absolute time standard for all known universes and when it stops, time really stops but only in the universes where the gravitational constant is a multiple of 42. Trust me, I know this. A homeless man from outer space told me when I came out of CBGB's after watching the Ramones. Wait, is this the Yahoo urban-folklore group? 73, N2FGX Quoting Bill Hawkins <bill@iaxs.net>: > OK, this is an interesting problem, but don't take anything I say > seriously, unless, of course, the shoe fits. > > Consider the end stages of TNI. You have acquired everything that > can be acquired. Nothing holds any secrets from you, and so there > are no challenges left. Agreed, some of us will run out of money > or space before we reach that state. The last question may be, > "What happens if I compare three hydrogen masers for a full year, > to ascertain the affects of gravity on hydrogen masers?" > > In almost all cases, your wife (collecting big things is a > testosterone-induced behavior) will be beside herself with worry > about how to recover the money you squandered on your collection > when you die. Her only recourse may be to call a junk collector > and pay to have it all removed, especially the stuff in rented > storage lockers. > > The problem of testosterone-induced hoarding behavior (if that > fits) is that basements, rooms, and storage lockers fill up. By > hoarding, you withhold interesting things from beginning time- > nuts -- people who have questions but no equipment with which to > find answers. > > If you expect the value of your hoard to increase, consider that > you are subject to the rate of technological change. You'll be > lucky to get 10 cents on the dollar for the bleeding edge stuff > you bought. The nostalgia affect peaks and dies as the old folks > die. On top of that, time is an esoteric field. Put something up > on eBay and you'll be very lucky to get 100 people looking at it. > > So do your loved ones (if that fits) and the next generation of > time-nuts a favor and disperse your collection. If it's museum > quality, donate it to a museum (if you can find one that will > take it - you won't be alone). Larry Ware on Jack's Boat Anchor > list would sell stuff at low prices to the guy who wrote the best > story about what he'd do with it. > > The problem of dating the tombstone is easily solved. First, you > pick a time to die and work it out with your relatives so that no > one will stop you -- perhaps because you didn't get rid of your > junk. Then you pick a means of death that can be started by an > electrical signal, like a solenoid-driven knife that severs the > thread suspending a sword far above your heart. > > Finally, you set up a count-down clock that will provide the > signal. Now you can tell the engraver what to put on your > tombstone. You are relieved of the uncertainty that goes with > not knowing when you will die. Your loved ones can get bank loans > based on what's in your will. It's a win-win situation, as long > as the sword doesn't miss. > > Happy Halloween, > Bill Hawkins > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >