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Re: Trimble Palisade problems

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Hal Murray
Fri, Sep 23, 2022 7:54 PM

The failure occurred several years ago (IIRC) ...

My unit seems to respond to TSIP commands on port B and gives a list of the
8 satellites its looking for (which changes from time to time) but  the

That combination seems strange.  After several years, the almanac is way out
of date.  So how does it know where to look for satellites?  Or, if it has an
up-to-date almanac, it's listening to satellites.  ??

What are you using for software to show the satellites?  Did anything change
in that area?

Have you tried Lady Heather?

Can you do a system reset so it starts clean?

Are the 10 MHz and PPS out accurate?

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> The failure occurred several years ago (IIRC) ... > My unit seems to respond to TSIP commands on port B and gives a list of the > 8 satellites its looking for (which changes from time to time) but the That combination seems strange. After several years, the almanac is way out of date. So how does it know where to look for satellites? Or, if it has an up-to-date almanac, it's listening to satellites. ?? What are you using for software to show the satellites? Did anything change in that area? Have you tried Lady Heather? Can you do a system reset so it starts clean? Are the 10 MHz and PPS out accurate? -- These are my opinions. I hate spam.
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Steve Platt
Sat, Sep 24, 2022 10:14 AM

On 23/09/2022 20:54, Hal Murray wrote:

That combination seems strange.  After several years, the almanac is way out
of date.  So how does it know where to look for satellites?  Or, if it has an
up-to-date almanac, it's listening to satellites.  ??

What are you using for software to show the satellites?  Did anything change
in that area?

Have you tried Lady Heather?

Can you do a system reset so it starts clean?

Are the 10 MHz and PPS out accurate?

Thanks for the reply Hal, to answer your queries briefly: there are no
longer any signals being received!

Software-wise, I had been using NTP to get time from the unit, for
years.  Since the problem, I've been monitoring the TSIP on port B using
GPSD (I run Linux) however, in desperation(!) I booted Windows and am
now using PalisadeMonitor.exe on port B, which confirms that there are
no signals received (even several days after power-up).

I've tried issuing "cold start" and "factory reset" to no avail.  I did,
on the bright side, manage to upgrade the firmware from 7.10 to 7.12
(and it still booted ok!) but no signals are being received, therefore
no PPS output.

Steve

On 23/09/2022 20:54, Hal Murray wrote: > That combination seems strange. After several years, the almanac is way out > of date. So how does it know where to look for satellites? Or, if it has an > up-to-date almanac, it's listening to satellites. ?? > > What are you using for software to show the satellites? Did anything change > in that area? > > Have you tried Lady Heather? > > Can you do a system reset so it starts clean? > > Are the 10 MHz and PPS out accurate? Thanks for the reply Hal, to answer your queries briefly: there are no longer any signals being received! Software-wise, I had been using NTP to get time from the unit, for years.  Since the problem, I've been monitoring the TSIP on port B using GPSD (I run Linux) however, in desperation(!) I booted Windows and am now using PalisadeMonitor.exe on port B, which confirms that there are no signals received (even several days after power-up). I've tried issuing "cold start" and "factory reset" to no avail.  I did, on the bright side, manage to upgrade the firmware from 7.10 to 7.12 (and it still booted ok!) but no signals are being received, therefore no PPS output. Steve
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Björn
Sat, Sep 24, 2022 12:45 PM

Steve,

Can you upload a current almanac to the receiver from the win software?

/Björn

Sent from my Phone

On 24 Sep 2022, at 12:39, Steve Platt via time-nuts time-nuts@lists.febo.com wrote:

On 23/09/2022 20:54, Hal Murray wrote:

That combination seems strange.  After several years, the almanac is way out
of date.  So how does it know where to look for satellites?  Or, if it has an
up-to-date almanac, it's listening to satellites.  ??

What are you using for software to show the satellites?  Did anything change
in that area?

Have you tried Lady Heather?

Can you do a system reset so it starts clean?

Are the 10 MHz and PPS out accurate?
Thanks for the reply Hal, to answer your queries briefly: there are no longer any signals being received!

Software-wise, I had been using NTP to get time from the unit, for years.  Since the problem, I've been monitoring the TSIP on port B using GPSD (I run Linux) however, in desperation(!) I booted Windows and am now using PalisadeMonitor.exe on port B, which confirms that there are no signals received (even several days after power-up).

I've tried issuing "cold start" and "factory reset" to no avail.  I did, on the bright side, manage to upgrade the firmware from 7.10 to 7.12 (and it still booted ok!) but no signals are being received, therefore no PPS output.

Steve


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Steve, Can you upload a current almanac to the receiver from the win software? /Björn Sent from my Phone > On 24 Sep 2022, at 12:39, Steve Platt via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > On 23/09/2022 20:54, Hal Murray wrote: >> That combination seems strange. After several years, the almanac is way out >> of date. So how does it know where to look for satellites? Or, if it has an >> up-to-date almanac, it's listening to satellites. ?? >> >> What are you using for software to show the satellites? Did anything change >> in that area? >> >> Have you tried Lady Heather? >> >> Can you do a system reset so it starts clean? >> >> Are the 10 MHz and PPS out accurate? > Thanks for the reply Hal, to answer your queries briefly: there are no longer any signals being received! > > Software-wise, I had been using NTP to get time from the unit, for years. Since the problem, I've been monitoring the TSIP on port B using GPSD (I run Linux) however, in desperation(!) I booted Windows and am now using PalisadeMonitor.exe on port B, which confirms that there are no signals received (even several days after power-up). > > I've tried issuing "cold start" and "factory reset" to no avail. I did, on the bright side, manage to upgrade the firmware from 7.10 to 7.12 (and it still booted ok!) but no signals are being received, therefore no PPS output. > > Steve > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com
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Steve Platt
Tue, Sep 27, 2022 8:08 PM

On 24 September 2022 13:45:41 BST, "Björn via time-nuts" time-nuts@lists.febo.com wrote:

Steve,

Can you upload a current almanac to the receiver from the win software?

/Björn

Sent from my Phone

On 24 Sep 2022, at 12:39, Steve Platt via time-nuts time-nuts@lists.febo.com wrote:

On 23/09/2022 20:54, Hal Murray wrote:

That combination seems strange.  After several years, the almanac is way out
of date.  So how does it know where to look for satellites?  Or, if it has an
up-to-date almanac, it's listening to satellites.  ??

What are you using for software to show the satellites?  Did anything change
in that area?

Have you tried Lady Heather?

Can you do a system reset so it starts clean?

Are the 10 MHz and PPS out accurate?

Thanks for the reply Hal, to answer your queries briefly: there are no longer any signals being received!

Software-wise, I had been using NTP to get time from the unit, for years.  Since the problem, I've been monitoring the TSIP on port B using GPSD (I run Linux) however, in desperation(!) I booted Windows and am now using PalisadeMonitor.exe on port B, which confirms that there are no signals received (even several days after power-up).

I've tried issuing "cold start" and "factory reset" to no avail.  I did, on the bright side, manage to upgrade the firmware from 7.10 to 7.12 (and it still booted ok!) but no signals are being received, therefore no PPS output.

Steve


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Funny that you asked that, I have just been able to do that and the computed positions of the chosen  satellites look good but the S/N figures remain at zero.

Steve

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On 24 September 2022 13:45:41 BST, "Björn via time-nuts" <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: >Steve, > >Can you upload a current almanac to the receiver from the win software? > >/Björn > >Sent from my Phone > >> On 24 Sep 2022, at 12:39, Steve Platt via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: >> >> On 23/09/2022 20:54, Hal Murray wrote: >>> That combination seems strange. After several years, the almanac is way out >>> of date. So how does it know where to look for satellites? Or, if it has an >>> up-to-date almanac, it's listening to satellites. ?? >>> >>> What are you using for software to show the satellites? Did anything change >>> in that area? >>> >>> Have you tried Lady Heather? >>> >>> Can you do a system reset so it starts clean? >>> >>> Are the 10 MHz and PPS out accurate? >> Thanks for the reply Hal, to answer your queries briefly: there are no longer any signals being received! >> >> Software-wise, I had been using NTP to get time from the unit, for years. Since the problem, I've been monitoring the TSIP on port B using GPSD (I run Linux) however, in desperation(!) I booted Windows and am now using PalisadeMonitor.exe on port B, which confirms that there are no signals received (even several days after power-up). >> >> I've tried issuing "cold start" and "factory reset" to no avail. I did, on the bright side, manage to upgrade the firmware from 7.10 to 7.12 (and it still booted ok!) but no signals are being received, therefore no PPS output. >> >> Steve >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com >_______________________________________________ >time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com Funny that you asked that, I have just been able to do that and the computed positions of the chosen satellites look good but the S/N figures remain at zero. Steve -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.