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Mark Sims
Sat, May 24, 2014 1:16 AM
I am building a weather sensor that includes a ultrasonic anemometer to measure wind speed, direction, and air temperature. It uses 4 cheap ($1 each) HC-SR04 ultrasonic rangefinder modules that output a pulse width proportional to the time of flight of the sound signal (topic is time nut related since it simultaneously measures the speed of sound in 4 directions to a pretty good accuracy/resolution using a cheap-ass microprocessor - ATMEGA328 (like and Arduino)... and does so without using any counter-timer channels).
Now the question... I would like it to be able to output data in imperial or metric units. In what units is the typical wind speed reported (meters/sec, km/hour, ?). Also air pressure (millibars/hectopascals/pascals/?).
I am building a weather sensor that includes a ultrasonic anemometer to measure wind speed, direction, and air temperature. It uses 4 cheap ($1 each) HC-SR04 ultrasonic rangefinder modules that output a pulse width proportional to the time of flight of the sound signal (topic is time nut related since it simultaneously measures the speed of sound in 4 directions to a pretty good accuracy/resolution using a cheap-ass microprocessor - ATMEGA328 (like and Arduino)... and does so without using any counter-timer channels).
Now the question... I would like it to be able to output data in imperial or metric units. In what units is the typical wind speed reported (meters/sec, km/hour, ?). Also air pressure (millibars/hectopascals/pascals/?).
TM
Tom Miller
Sat, May 24, 2014 1:30 AM
For civilian use, Miles/hour and inches Hg. Aviation and marine would be
knots and inches Hg.
Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Sims" holrum@hotmail.com
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Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 9:16 PM
Subject: [time-nuts] Weather/units question for European members
I am building a weather sensor that includes a ultrasonic anemometer to
measure wind speed, direction, and air temperature. It uses 4 cheap ($1
each) HC-SR04 ultrasonic rangefinder modules that output a pulse width
proportional to the time of flight of the sound signal (topic is time nut
related since it simultaneously measures the speed of sound in 4
directions to a pretty good accuracy/resolution using a cheap-ass
microprocessor - ATMEGA328 (like and Arduino)... and does so without using
any counter-timer channels).
Now the question... I would like it to be able to output data in imperial
or metric units. In what units is the typical wind speed reported
(meters/sec, km/hour, ?). Also air pressure
(millibars/hectopascals/pascals/?).
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For civilian use, Miles/hour and inches Hg. Aviation and marine would be
knots and inches Hg.
Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Sims" <holrum@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 9:16 PM
Subject: [time-nuts] Weather/units question for European members
>I am building a weather sensor that includes a ultrasonic anemometer to
>measure wind speed, direction, and air temperature. It uses 4 cheap ($1
>each) HC-SR04 ultrasonic rangefinder modules that output a pulse width
>proportional to the time of flight of the sound signal (topic is time nut
>related since it simultaneously measures the speed of sound in 4
>directions to a pretty good accuracy/resolution using a cheap-ass
>microprocessor - ATMEGA328 (like and Arduino)... and does so without using
>any counter-timer channels).
> Now the question... I would like it to be able to output data in imperial
> or metric units. In what units is the typical wind speed reported
> (meters/sec, km/hour, ?). Also air pressure
> (millibars/hectopascals/pascals/?).
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paul swed
Sat, May 24, 2014 1:36 AM
Mark
I think wind speed is also in Bueforts. Pretty sure thats misspelled.
Regards
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Mark Sims holrum@hotmail.com wrote:
I am building a weather sensor that includes a ultrasonic anemometer to
measure wind speed, direction, and air temperature. It uses 4 cheap ($1
each) HC-SR04 ultrasonic rangefinder modules that output a pulse width
proportional to the time of flight of the sound signal (topic is time nut
related since it simultaneously measures the speed of sound in 4
directions to a pretty good accuracy/resolution using a cheap-ass
microprocessor - ATMEGA328 (like and Arduino)... and does so without using
any counter-timer channels).
Now the question... I would like it to be able to output data in imperial
or metric units. In what units is the typical wind speed reported
(meters/sec, km/hour, ?). Also air pressure
(millibars/hectopascals/pascals/?).
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Mark
I think wind speed is also in Bueforts. Pretty sure thats misspelled.
Regards
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Mark Sims <holrum@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I am building a weather sensor that includes a ultrasonic anemometer to
> measure wind speed, direction, and air temperature. It uses 4 cheap ($1
> each) HC-SR04 ultrasonic rangefinder modules that output a pulse width
> proportional to the time of flight of the sound signal (topic is time nut
> related since it simultaneously measures the speed of sound in 4
> directions to a pretty good accuracy/resolution using a cheap-ass
> microprocessor - ATMEGA328 (like and Arduino)... and does so without using
> any counter-timer channels).
> Now the question... I would like it to be able to output data in imperial
> or metric units. In what units is the typical wind speed reported
> (meters/sec, km/hour, ?). Also air pressure
> (millibars/hectopascals/pascals/?).
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DaveH
Sat, May 24, 2014 1:55 AM
Hi Mark
I have been running an older Davis VantagePro station for the last fifteen
years. It gives either miles per hour or meters per second.
Air pressure in either inches or millimeters of Mercury as well as
hectoPascals
One note - wind direction is opposite from what you might think. A West
wind blows to the East -- it is coming from the West.
The project sounds like a fun hack -- I would be curious as to the
resolution you achieve with these modules.
Dave
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Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 18:17
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Weather/units question for European members
I am building a weather sensor that includes a ultrasonic
anemometer to measure wind speed, direction, and air
temperature. It uses 4 cheap ($1 each) HC-SR04 ultrasonic
rangefinder modules that output a pulse width proportional to
the time of flight of the sound signal (topic is time nut
related since it simultaneously measures the speed of sound
in 4 directions to a pretty good accuracy/resolution using a
cheap-ass microprocessor - ATMEGA328 (like and Arduino)...
and does so without using any counter-timer channels).
Now the question... I would like it to be able to output
data in imperial or metric units. In what units is the
typical wind speed reported (meters/sec, km/hour, ?).
Also air pressure (millibars/hectopascals/pascals/?).
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Hi Mark
I have been running an older Davis VantagePro station for the last fifteen
years. It gives either miles per hour or meters per second.
Air pressure in either inches or millimeters of Mercury as well as
hectoPascals
One note - wind direction is opposite from what you might think. A West
wind blows to the East -- it is coming __from__ the West.
The project sounds like a fun hack -- I would be curious as to the
resolution you achieve with these modules.
Dave
> -----Original Message-----
> From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com
> [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sims
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 18:17
> To: time-nuts@febo.com
> Subject: [time-nuts] Weather/units question for European members
>
> I am building a weather sensor that includes a ultrasonic
> anemometer to measure wind speed, direction, and air
> temperature. It uses 4 cheap ($1 each) HC-SR04 ultrasonic
> rangefinder modules that output a pulse width proportional to
> the time of flight of the sound signal (topic is time nut
> related since it simultaneously measures the speed of sound
> in 4 directions to a pretty good accuracy/resolution using a
> cheap-ass microprocessor - ATMEGA328 (like and Arduino)...
> and does so without using any counter-timer channels).
> Now the question... I would like it to be able to output
> data in imperial or metric units. In what units is the
> typical wind speed reported (meters/sec, km/hour, ?).
> Also air pressure (millibars/hectopascals/pascals/?).
>
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Flemming Larsen
Sat, May 24, 2014 2:50 AM
Mark
I think wind speed is also in Bueforts. Pretty sure thats misspelled.
Regards
Beaufort scale
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> Mark
> I think wind speed is also in Bueforts. Pretty sure thats misspelled.
> Regards
R
Rex
Sat, May 24, 2014 2:54 AM
I have a crappy Chinese-made handheld propeller anemometer. I'm not in
Europe but FWIW the output can be selected as: m/s, km/h, ft/min, knots
or mph. So, the first two of those seem to be likely metric choices.
Your method sounds interesting. Would you be willing to share any
details about how you are using the ultrasonic modules? Do they just
point out into open space or is there something more involved? Was
there a reference that got you started on this idea?
On 5/23/2014 6:16 PM, Mark Sims wrote:
I am building a weather sensor that includes a ultrasonic anemometer to measure wind speed, direction, and air temperature. It uses 4 cheap ($1 each) HC-SR04 ultrasonic rangefinder modules that output a pulse width proportional to the time of flight of the sound signal (topic is time nut related since it simultaneously measures the speed of sound in 4 directions to a pretty good accuracy/resolution using a cheap-ass microprocessor - ATMEGA328 (like and Arduino)... and does so without using any counter-timer channels).
Now the question... I would like it to be able to output data in imperial or metric units. In what units is the typical wind speed reported (meters/sec, km/hour, ?). Also air pressure (millibars/hectopascals/pascals/?).
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I have a crappy Chinese-made handheld propeller anemometer. I'm not in
Europe but FWIW the output can be selected as: m/s, km/h, ft/min, knots
or mph. So, the first two of those seem to be likely metric choices.
Your method sounds interesting. Would you be willing to share any
details about how you are using the ultrasonic modules? Do they just
point out into open space or is there something more involved? Was
there a reference that got you started on this idea?
On 5/23/2014 6:16 PM, Mark Sims wrote:
> I am building a weather sensor that includes a ultrasonic anemometer to measure wind speed, direction, and air temperature. It uses 4 cheap ($1 each) HC-SR04 ultrasonic rangefinder modules that output a pulse width proportional to the time of flight of the sound signal (topic is time nut related since it simultaneously measures the speed of sound in 4 directions to a pretty good accuracy/resolution using a cheap-ass microprocessor - ATMEGA328 (like and Arduino)... and does so without using any counter-timer channels).
> Now the question... I would like it to be able to output data in imperial or metric units. In what units is the typical wind speed reported (meters/sec, km/hour, ?). Also air pressure (millibars/hectopascals/pascals/?).
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DJ
David J Taylor
Sat, May 24, 2014 4:21 AM
I am building a weather sensor that includes a ultrasonic anemometer to
measure wind speed, direction, and air temperature. It uses 4 cheap ($1
each) HC-SR04 ultrasonic rangefinder modules that output a pulse width
proportional to the time of flight of the sound signal (topic is time nut
related since it simultaneously measures the speed of sound in 4 directions
to a pretty good accuracy/resolution using a cheap-ass microprocessor -
ATMEGA328 (like and Arduino)... and does so without using any counter-timer
channels).
Now the question... I would like it to be able to output data in imperial
or metric units. In what units is the typical wind speed reported
(meters/sec, km/hour, ?). Also air pressure
(millibars/hectopascals/pascals/?).
---=============
Mark,
m/s and hPa are often used, but not exclusively.
Cheers,
David
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk
I am building a weather sensor that includes a ultrasonic anemometer to
measure wind speed, direction, and air temperature. It uses 4 cheap ($1
each) HC-SR04 ultrasonic rangefinder modules that output a pulse width
proportional to the time of flight of the sound signal (topic is time nut
related since it simultaneously measures the speed of sound in 4 directions
to a pretty good accuracy/resolution using a cheap-ass microprocessor -
ATMEGA328 (like and Arduino)... and does so without using any counter-timer
channels).
Now the question... I would like it to be able to output data in imperial
or metric units. In what units is the typical wind speed reported
(meters/sec, km/hour, ?). Also air pressure
(millibars/hectopascals/pascals/?).
==============================================
Mark,
m/s and hPa are often used, but not exclusively.
Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk
BL
Brian Lloyd
Sat, May 24, 2014 4:32 AM
Now the question... I would like it to be able to output data in imperial
or metric units. In what units is the typical wind speed reported
(meters/sec, km/hour, ?). Also air pressure (millibars/hectopascals/
pascals/?).
In the US wind speed is in MPH (civil) or knots (aviation or marine).
Atmospheric pressure is in inches of mercury (US) or millibars. I have seen
wind speed in m/s in Europe.
--
Brian Lloyd
Lloyd Aviation
706 Flightline Drive
Spring Branch, TX 78070
brian@lloyd.com
+1.916.877.5067
On Saturday, May 24, 2014, David J Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk>
wrote:
>
> Now the question... I would like it to be able to output data in imperial
> or metric units. In what units is the typical wind speed reported
> (meters/sec, km/hour, ?). Also air pressure (millibars/hectopascals/
> pascals/?).
In the US wind speed is in MPH (civil) or knots (aviation or marine).
Atmospheric pressure is in inches of mercury (US) or millibars. I have seen
wind speed in m/s in Europe.
--
Brian Lloyd
Lloyd Aviation
706 Flightline Drive
Spring Branch, TX 78070
brian@lloyd.com
+1.916.877.5067
C
cfo
Sat, May 24, 2014 5:37 AM
On Sat, 24 May 2014 01:16:32 +0000, Mark Sims wrote:
Now the question... I would like it to be able to output data in
imperial or metric units. In what units is the typical wind speed
reported (meters/sec, km/hour, ?). Also air pressure
(millibars/hectopascals/pascals/?).
Our weather channel is reporting windspeed in meter/sec , and on rare
occations km/h.
But "Second-meter" seems to be the standard here in DK
CFO
On Sat, 24 May 2014 01:16:32 +0000, Mark Sims wrote:
> Now the question... I would like it to be able to output data in
> imperial or metric units. In what units is the typical wind speed
> reported (meters/sec, km/hour, ?). Also air pressure
> (millibars/hectopascals/pascals/?).
Our weather channel is reporting windspeed in meter/sec , and on rare
occations km/h.
But "Second-meter" seems to be the standard here in DK
CFO
NM
Neville Michie
Sat, May 24, 2014 5:49 AM
There is a great sonic anemometer in:
"An inexpensive sonic anemometer for eddy correlation" G.S.Campbell and M.H.Unsworth, (1979), Journal of Applied Meteorology Vol 18, August 1979, Pp. 1072-1077.
This unit uses 4000 CMOS, a LM301A and two cheap ultrasonic transducers. It operates a phase-locked loop and alternately uses the sensors for transmitter and receiver, swapping ends at about 74 Hz, to get a two way signal. This method cancels most errors. It has temperature and velocity outputs.
cheers, Neville Michie
On 24/05/2014, at 11:16 AM, Mark Sims wrote:
I am building a weather sensor that includes a ultrasonic anemometer to measure wind speed, direction, and air temperature. It uses 4 cheap ($1 each) HC-SR04 ultrasonic rangefinder modules that output a pulse width proportional to the time of flight of the sound signal (topic is time nut related since it simultaneously measures the speed of sound in 4 directions to a pretty good accuracy/resolution using a cheap-ass microprocessor - ATMEGA328 (like and Arduino)... and does so without using any counter-timer channels).
Now the question... I would like it to be able to output data in imperial or metric units. In what units is the typical wind speed reported (meters/sec, km/hour, ?). Also air pressure (millibars/hectopascals/pascals/?).
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There is a great sonic anemometer in:
"An inexpensive sonic anemometer for eddy correlation" G.S.Campbell and M.H.Unsworth, (1979), Journal of Applied Meteorology Vol 18, August 1979, Pp. 1072-1077.
This unit uses 4000 CMOS, a LM301A and two cheap ultrasonic transducers. It operates a phase-locked loop and alternately uses the sensors for transmitter and receiver, swapping ends at about 74 Hz, to get a two way signal. This method cancels most errors. It has temperature and velocity outputs.
cheers, Neville Michie
On 24/05/2014, at 11:16 AM, Mark Sims wrote:
> I am building a weather sensor that includes a ultrasonic anemometer to measure wind speed, direction, and air temperature. It uses 4 cheap ($1 each) HC-SR04 ultrasonic rangefinder modules that output a pulse width proportional to the time of flight of the sound signal (topic is time nut related since it simultaneously measures the speed of sound in 4 directions to a pretty good accuracy/resolution using a cheap-ass microprocessor - ATMEGA328 (like and Arduino)... and does so without using any counter-timer channels).
> Now the question... I would like it to be able to output data in imperial or metric units. In what units is the typical wind speed reported (meters/sec, km/hour, ?). Also air pressure (millibars/hectopascals/pascals/?).
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