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Hi Scott,
can't give you much input on the mender side of things – also, honestly, probably cleverer
to stay with Hovhannes about this – he's your support point of contact for that N320,
after all.
Regarding the difference between detecting with uhd_find_devices and the config utility:
they do slightly different things, that I brushed over in my last mail, clearly. (for
details: you can send a raw ethernet frame, if you bypass the IP stack of your OS, to talk
to the firmware on the USRP. That's not very useful in general, but for these kinds of
things it's OK).
Make sure you have configured Windows to give a statically assigned IP address to your
USB-Ethernet adapter, from the 192.168.10.0/24 subnet (so anything 192.168.10.1 to
192.168.10.254, excluding the .2, since that already is used by the USRP).
Also note, regarding your USB adapter: While detection might work with non-gigabit
Ethernet adapters, sample streaming won't; so make doubly sure this isn't a 100 Mb/s
("fast ethernet") adapter only. Also, in the past, we've seen USB-Gigabit Adapters
actually suffer under the high load of high sample rates, and start to drop or reorder
packets, leading to all-around sadness with customers. I haven't tested any GigE adapter
with a USRP2+ (so USRP2, N200 or N210) lately; but ten years ago, I would have strongly
recommended you stick with PCIe Gigabit ethernet cards.
Best,
Marcus
On 24.07.24 20:42, Dr. Scott Best wrote:
Dear Marcus,
I have been working with your colleague, Hovhannes Manjikyan, on my communication
problems with the n320. We have been unable to install
n3xx_common_mender_default-v4.7.0.0 after it is uploaded to the n320. He will get back
to me tomorrow with a path forward on this problem for the new, out-of-the-box n320,
Serial: 32B1464.
I also have an older n200 that requires firmware and FPGA updates. The n200 is
connected to a USB-to-RJ45 adapter on my laptop with the following configuration:
I can use the uhd_find_devices command to find the n200 when it is connected to my LAN,
and the following information is provided:
The uhd_find_devices command does not work when the n200 is connected to the USB-to-RJ45
port. However, the NI-USRP Configuration Utility is able to find the n200, as shown here:
As you can see, the firmware needs to be updated to use the n200 with MATLAB. I
attempted to update the firmware using the NI-USRP Configuration Utility, but this was
not successful due to a compatibility error, as shown here:
Do you have a procedure I can follow to fix this problem so the firmware can be updated
for the n200?
Thanks in advance for your timely assistance.
Respectfully,
Scott
Dr. Scott Best
Chief Technology Officer
SiberSci, LLC
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*From:*Marcus Müller marcus.mueller@ettus.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2024 10:16 AM
To: usrp-users@lists.ettus.com; Dr. Scott Best scott_best@sibersci.com
Subject: Re: [USRP-users] Re: Where can I download the "NI-USRP Configuration Utility"
for Windows 10 x64
(just to be clear: you can probably do what you want to do with that tool, but with
other tools, for the N320. I don't know exactly what you're planning to do, but if you
could reply to the list what you're currently facing, this might be quickly resolvable,
without downloading a 6GB installer image)
On 24.07.24 17:12, Marcus Müller wrote:
Note that while I've never used it, I don't think it'll work with the N320; IIRC it
is a gen2-device wrapper around what you do with usrp_burn_mb_eeprom,
usrp2_card_burner, and uhd_image_loader.
Best,
Marcus
On 24.07.24 15:36, Martin Anderseck wrote:
The NI-USRP configuration utility should be part of the NI-USRP tool chain:
https://www.ni.com/en/support/downloads/drivers/download.ni-usrp.html#484354
/Martin
INTERNAL - NI CONFIDENTIAL
*From:*Dr. Scott Best via USRP-users <usrp-users@lists.ettus.com>
<mailto:usrp-users@lists.ettus.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 24, 2024 2:03 PM
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*Subject:* [USRP-users] Where can I download the "NI-USRP Configuration Utility"
for Windows 10 x64
*Importance:* High
Dear Martin,
I have an n200 and a pair of n320s that I am working on using for a project. I
watched a recent YouTube movie about using the “NI-USRP Configuration Utility”
for Windows 10 x 64 for this purpose. I have been unable to find a URL to
download a copy of this handy utility, so can you provide me with the download
location?
Thanks in advance for your timely assistance.
Respectfully,
Scott
Dr. Scott Best
Chief Technology Officer
*SiberSci, LLC*
1-270-228-4901 office
scott_best@sibersci.com e-mail
https://sibersci.com <http://www.sibersci.com/>
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Dear Marcus,
Thanks for the additional port information. I will meet with Hovhannes
later today to continue working on this problem.
Do I need to use different .bin files to update my n200 using the NI-USRP
Configuration Utility to update the firmware?
I have the following .bin files available:
The ni292x_fpga.bin and ni292x_fw.bin files were rejected as incompatible
with the n200 hardware, so should I use usrp_n200_fw.bin and
usrp_n200_r2_fpga.bin. or usrp_n200_r3_fpga.bin or usrp_n200_r4
instead_fpga.bin to update the firmware?
Respectfully,
Scott
Dr. Scott Best
Chief Technology Officer
SiberSci, LLC
1-270-228-4901 office
scott_best@sibersci.com e-mail
https://sibersci.com http://www.sibersci.com/
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From: Marcus Müller marcus.mueller@ettus.com
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2024 6:08 AM
To: Dr. Scott Best scott_best@sibersci.com; usrp-users@lists.ettus.com
Subject: Re: [USRP-users] Re: Where can I download the "NI-USRP
Configuration Utility" for Windows 10 x64
Hi Scott,
can't give you much input on the mender side of things – also, honestly,
probably cleverer to stay with Hovhannes about this – he's your support
point of contact for that N320, after all.
Regarding the difference between detecting with uhd_find_devices and the
config utility: they do slightly different things, that I brushed over in
my last mail, clearly. (for details: you can send a raw ethernet frame, if
you bypass the IP stack of your OS, to talk to the firmware on the USRP.
That's not very useful in general, but for these kinds of things it's OK).
Make sure you have configured Windows to give a statically assigned IP
address to your USB-Ethernet adapter, from the 192.168.10.0/24 subnet (so
anything 192.168.10.1 to 192.168.10.254, excluding the .2, since that
already is used by the USRP).
Also note, regarding your USB adapter: While detection might work with
non-gigabit Ethernet adapters, sample streaming won't; so make doubly sure
this isn't a 100 Mb/s ("fast ethernet") adapter only. Also, in the past,
we've seen USB-Gigabit Adapters actually suffer under the high load of high
sample rates, and start to drop or reorder packets, leading to all-around
sadness with customers. I haven't tested any GigE adapter with a USRP2+ (so
USRP2, N200 or N210) lately; but ten years ago, I would have strongly
recommended you stick with PCIe Gigabit ethernet cards.
Best,
Marcus
On 24.07.24 20:42, Dr. Scott Best wrote:
Dear Marcus,
I have been working with your colleague, Hovhannes Manjikyan, on my
communication problems with the n320. We have been unable to install
n3xx_common_mender_default-v4.7.0.0 after it is uploaded to the n320. He
will get back to me tomorrow with a path forward on this problem for the
new, out-of-the-box n320, Serial: 32B1464.
I also have an older n200 that requires firmware and FPGA updates. The
n200 is connected to a USB-to-RJ45 adapter on my laptop with the following
configuration:
I can use the uhd_find_devices command to find the n200 when it is
connected to my LAN, and the following information is provided:
The uhd_find_devices command does not work when the n200 is connected to
the USB-to-RJ45 port. However, the NI-USRP Configuration Utility is able
to find the n200, as shown here:
As you can see, the firmware needs to be updated to use the n200 with
MATLAB. I attempted to update the firmware using the NI-USRP Configuration
Utility, but this was not successful due to a compatibility error, as shown
here:
Do you have a procedure I can follow to fix this problem so the firmware
can be updated for the n200?
Thanks in advance for your timely assistance.
Respectfully,
Scott
Dr. Scott Best
Chief Technology Officer
SiberSci, LLC
1-270-228-4901 office
scott_best@sibersci.com e-mail
https://sibersci.com http://www.sibersci.com/
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From: Marcus Müller marcus.mueller@ettus.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2024 10:16 AM
To: usrp-users@lists.ettus.com; Dr. Scott Best scott_best@sibersci.com
Subject: Re: [USRP-users] Re: Where can I download the "NI-USRP
Configuration Utility" for Windows 10 x64
(just to be clear: you can probably do what you want to do with that tool,
but with other tools, for the N320. I don't know exactly what you're
planning to do, but if you could reply to the list what you're currently
facing, this might be quickly resolvable, without downloading a 6GB
installer image)
On 24.07.24 17:12, Marcus Müller wrote:
Note that while I've never used it, I don't think it'll work with the N320;
IIRC it is a gen2-device wrapper around what you do with
usrp_burn_mb_eeprom, usrp2_card_burner, and uhd_image_loader.
Best,
Marcus
On 24.07.24 15:36, Martin Anderseck wrote:
The NI-USRP configuration utility should be part of the NI-USRP tool chain:
https://www.ni.com/en/support/downloads/drivers/download.ni-usrp.html#484354
/Martin
INTERNAL - NI CONFIDENTIAL
From: Dr. Scott Best via USRP-users usrp-users@lists.ettus.com
usrp-users@lists.ettus.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2024 2:03 PM
To: martin.braun@ettus.com
Cc: usrp-users@lists.ettus.com
Subject: [USRP-users] Where can I download the "NI-USRP Configuration
Utility" for Windows 10 x64
Importance: High
Dear Martin,
I have an n200 and a pair of n320s that I am working on using for a
project. I watched a recent YouTube movie about using the “NI-USRP
Configuration Utility” for Windows 10 x 64 for this purpose. I have been
unable to find a URL to download a copy of this handy utility, so can you
provide me with the download location?
Thanks in advance for your timely assistance.
Respectfully,
Scott
Dr. Scott Best
Chief Technology Officer
SiberSci, LLC
1-270-228-4901 office
scott_best@sibersci.com e-mail
https://sibersci.com http://www.sibersci.com/
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responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are
hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this
communication is strictly prohibited. If this communication has been
transmitted from a U.S. location it may also contain data subject to the
International Traffic in Arms Regulations or U.S. Export Administration
Regulations and cannot be disseminated, distributed or copied to foreign
nationals, residing in the U.S. or abroad, without the prior approval of
the U.S. Department of State or appropriate export licensing authority. If
you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender by
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any file attachment(s).
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