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Mrmoo5@aol.com

Wed, Jan 17, 2001 7:22 PM

We have a 36 foot (40' overall) sundeck semi-displacement twin screw trawler.
The boat was purchased with 240 feet of anchor chain which gives the vessel a
"bow-down attitude when at rest. Is it worth carrying all that weight of
chain or would I be better off with rope? We do all our boating in Southern
California with a usually pacific Pacific ocean and anchor only if there is
no mooring available.

                                                Ralph Salerno
                                                M/V ANCORA

We have a 36 foot (40' overall) sundeck semi-displacement twin screw trawler. The boat was purchased with 240 feet of anchor chain which gives the vessel a "bow-down attitude when at rest. Is it worth carrying all that weight of chain or would I be better off with rope? We do all our boating in Southern California with a usually pacific Pacific ocean and anchor only if there is no mooring available. Ralph Salerno M/V ANCORA

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nh2f@mouseherder.com

Wed, Jan 17, 2001 11:44 PM

A lot depends on the rest of the set-up. If you have an electric windlass,
all chain makes it pretty easy to veer or retrieve lots of anchor rode with
little effort or mess. One solution to the bow down attitude is to find a
way to route the chain farther aft and lower.

If you're cruising in the same general area all the time, a good rule of
thumb is to do what works for the other locals.

Rick the Mouseherder - nh2f
Westsail 32 Xapic, Hull #438
Annapolis, MD

A small boat and a suitcase full of money
beats a 40 footer tied to the Bank.

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A lot depends on the rest of the set-up. If you have an electric windlass, all chain makes it pretty easy to veer or retrieve lots of anchor rode with little effort or mess. One solution to the bow down attitude is to find a way to route the chain farther aft and lower. If you're cruising in the same general area all the time, a good rule of thumb is to do what works for the other locals. ---------------------------------------------------------- Rick the Mouseherder - nh2f Westsail 32 Xapic, Hull #438 Annapolis, MD A small boat and a suitcase full of money beats a 40 footer tied to the Bank. Creative graphic solutions in vinyl for your boat lettering & designs http://www.mouseherder.com Visit our Westsail 32 Xapic http://www.mouseherder.com/xapic The Westsail Owners Assn. Homepage http://www.westsail.org

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yourcaptain@earthlink.net

Thu, Jan 18, 2001 2:52 AM

At 06:44 PM 1/17/01 -0500, you wrote:

A lot depends on the rest of the set-up. If you have an electric windlass,
all chain makes it pretty easy to veer or retrieve lots of anchor rode with
little effort or mess. One solution to the bow down attitude is to find a
way to route the chain farther aft and lower.

If you're cruising in the same general area all the time, a good rule of
thumb is to do what works for the other locals.

Rick the Mouseherder - nh2f

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My opinion although no one asked is------ chain is heavy, dirty,
uncomfortable to lie to without the nuisance of rigging a snubber, and
weaker than nylon line of proper size and chews up your boat when working
with chain on deck.
Take the chain off and give your boat a break and let it trim as designed.
In the event your winch gives up its good bye ground tackle or break your
back to retrieve. Line can be used for a drogue if necessary. You will also
be riding drier and quicker and more bucks in your pocket, for there is
always one out there to unload on.
.

Captain Al Pilvinis

"M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47
2630 N.E. 41st Street
Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064
Voice 954-941-2556 Fax 954 788-2666
Email yourcaptain@earthlink.net
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At 06:44 PM 1/17/01 -0500, you wrote: >A lot depends on the rest of the set-up. If you have an electric windlass, >all chain makes it pretty easy to veer or retrieve lots of anchor rode with >little effort or mess. One solution to the bow down attitude is to find a >way to route the chain farther aft and lower. > >If you're cruising in the same general area all the time, a good rule of >thumb is to do what works for the other locals. > >---------------------------------------------------------- >Rick the Mouseherder - nh2f ======================================================= My opinion although no one asked is------ chain is heavy, dirty, uncomfortable to lie to without the nuisance of rigging a snubber, and weaker than nylon line of proper size and chews up your boat when working with chain on deck. Take the chain off and give your boat a break and let it trim as designed. In the event your winch gives up its good bye ground tackle or break your back to retrieve. Line can be used for a drogue if necessary. You will also be riding drier and quicker and more bucks in your pocket, for there is always one out there to unload on. . Captain Al Pilvinis "M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47 2630 N.E. 41st Street Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064 Voice 954-941-2556 Fax 954 788-2666 Email yourcaptain@earthlink.net Website http://home.earthlink.net/~yourcaptain

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shaunsweeney@telus.net

Thu, Jan 18, 2001 3:30 AM

IMHO, you could reduce to 60' of chain and some good rope. It never ceases
to amaze me how little energy of a bobbing boat gets to the anchor when a
few feet of chain are connected to the anchor. I have dove on our boat when
it was bobbing like a cork (and we're a heavy boat) and found nearly all of
the chain lying along the bottom.

There are also other ways that you can improve your anchor system on the fly
such as dangling a weight partway along the line - like a fishing
cannonball.

Shaun aboard Rana III
GB 46 Alaskan
lying Nanaimo

IMHO, you could reduce to 60' of chain and some good rope. It never ceases to amaze me how little energy of a bobbing boat gets to the anchor when a few feet of chain are connected to the anchor. I have dove on our boat when it was bobbing like a cork (and we're a heavy boat) and found nearly all of the chain lying along the bottom. There are also other ways that you can improve your anchor system on the fly such as dangling a weight partway along the line - like a fishing cannonball. Shaun aboard Rana III GB 46 Alaskan lying Nanaimo

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