Re: T&T: Lower stations, do you use yours?
"Mark Andrew" msandrew@chartermi.net writes:
Well, I've spent a half hour going in circles with Teleflex, the owners of
the Hynautic hydraulic engine controls. No one in the company seems to know
anything about the product line, and it's like pulling teeth getting past
the phone receptionist...seems kind of risky in this economic environment to
put the sales future of your company in the hands of your phone
receptionists, but there you go...
The www.teleflex.com web site has no information, although they do talk
about their Hynautic steering controls.
Trust me, you are right, it's hard to get info. These are "old tech" and not
what Hynautic is pushing these days. However there is definitely an engineer
there still supporting the product, I had a good chat with him a few years
ago. But in any event they are dead simple, very very easy to install, more
or less indestructible, and work perfectly for multiple stations with no
extra bits and pieces. Get the manual, buy what you need, on eBay, and you
will be good to go. Waaayyyyy less expensive than the electronic ones, and
you can fix these with an adjustable wrench and WD-40. Plus they feel very
nice and solid in your hands.
Scott Welch
Product Manager, Open Text Collaboration and Social Media Group
www.opentext.com
905 762 6101
"Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn
out." - John Wooden
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From: "Ron Rogers" rcrogers6@kennett.net
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Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: T&T: Lower stations, do you use yours?
Some have turned to Kobelt - especially for hydraulic cylinders.
Ron Rogers
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Don't forget about www.Jastram.com.
This is the company that bought out the original Wagner hydraulic steering
systems. Some of their staff date back to the early days and they have
made a point of retaining some compatibility so you can stil get o-ring eal
kits etc.
Jastram is located in North Vancouver BC. Despite your first impression
from going to their website, they do in fact make systems for boats down to
35 - 40 foot. Which is what the original fishing boats were sized at.
Wagner and Capilano had a common origin but diverged as the two founding
partners sent their seperate ways. ) Paul Wagner sold hi sinterest in
straight steering systems but still remains active with his autopilot
business. Pretty much all other systems are derived from these two
original system designs.
Jastram will in fact design a system from scratch if you so desire. for
those contemplating a wholesale upgrade or constrution from scratch you
can't do better than going there.
No connection to the company except when I was working in a naval architect
design office we relied heavily on their expertise to keep us out of
trouble.
Arild
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From: "Scott H.E. Welch" swelch@opentext.com
To: "Mark Andrew" msandrew@chartermi.net
Cc: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: T&T: Lower stations, do you use yours?
"Mark Andrew" msandrew@chartermi.net writes:
Well, I've spent a half hour going in circles with Teleflex, the owners of
the Hynautic hydraulic engine controls. No one in the company seems to
know
anything about the product line, and it's like pulling teeth getting past
the phone receptionist...seems kind of risky in this economic environment
to
put the sales future of your company in the hands of your phone
receptionists, but there you go...
The www.teleflex.com web site has no information, although they do talk
about their Hynautic steering controls.
Trust me, you are right, it's hard to get info. These are "old tech" and
not
what Hynautic is pushing these days. However there is definitely an
engineer
there still supporting the product, I had a good chat with him a few years
ago. But in any event they are dead simple, very very easy to install,
more
or less indestructible, and work perfectly for multiple stations with no
extra bits and pieces. Get the manual, buy what you need, on eBay, and you
will be good to go. Waaayyyyy less expensive than the electronic ones, and
you can fix these with an adjustable wrench and WD-40. Plus they feel very
nice and solid in your hands.
Scott Welch
Product Manager, Open Text Collaboration and Social Media Group
www.opentext.com
The US Coast Guard Auxiliary Interpreter Corps has created a glossary of
nautical terms translated from English to French, Italian, Russian, and
Spanish. Many other languages are in the works.
http://cgwebs.net/INTERPRETER/
You have to scroll down the page a bit to find them.
Todd Mains
Scappoose, Oregon
2elnav@netbistro.com writes:
Jastram will in fact design a system from scratch if you so desire. for
those contemplating a wholesale upgrade or constrution from scratch you
can't do better than going there.
I will second this. I used Jastram components when I refit Island Eagle with
hydraulic steering, and they were great. With some companies, you talk to
sales people and at the very end might get a bit of engineering expertise.
With Jastram, when you call you are talking right to the engineers. I have
had no problems whatsoever with my Jastram equipment and would not hesitate
to recommend them highly.
By the way, they also have a sizing calculator which they use to determine
the proper ram and pump sizes.
Scott Welch
Product Manager, Open Text Collaboration and Social Media Group
www.opentext.com
905 762 6101
"Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn
out." - John Wooden
Thanks all, for the infob&.the Hynautic solution looks great for bullet-proof
engine controls, and had planned to go with Jastram for steering controls.
Mark Andrew
c: (616) 928-4542
From: Scott H.E. Welch [mailto:swelch@opentext.com]
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 4:50 PM
To: Mark Andrew
Cc: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Subject: Re: T&T: Lower stations, do you use yours?
"Mark Andrew" msandrew@chartermi.net writes:
Well, I've spent a half hour going in circles with Teleflex, the owners of
the Hynautic hydraulic engine controls. No one in the company seems to know
anything about the product line, and it's like pulling teeth getting past
the phone receptionist...seems kind of risky in this economic environment to
put the sales future of your company in the hands of your phone
receptionists, but there you go...
The www.teleflex.com web site has no information, although they do talk
about their Hynautic steering controls.
Trust me, you are right, it's hard to get info. These are "old tech" and not
what Hynautic is pushing these days. However there is definitely an engineer
there still supporting the product, I had a good chat with him a few years
ago. But in any event they are dead simple, very very easy to install, more or
less indestructible, and work perfectly for multiple stations with no extra
bits and pieces. Get the manual, buy what you need, on eBay, and you will be
good to go. Waaayyyyy less expensive than the electronic ones, and you can fix
these with an adjustable wrench and WD-40. Plus they feel very nice and solid
in your hands.
Scott Welch
Product Manager, Open Text Collaboration and Social Media Group
905 762 6101
"Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn
out." - John Wooden
OK, just to throw a fly in the ointment, and get some of the old salts to
chime inb&.technically, I was told long ago (by a very old salt) that what
webre referring to as a b fly-bridgeb (that part of the upper deck
straddling the mid section and the pilothouse roof, should more properly be
referred to as the b Monkey Bridgeb .
Comments?
Mark Andrew
b Black Riverb
Holland, MI
The monkey bridge is a term from big ships typically those with a center
deck house in between fore and aft cargo holds. The Monkey bridge was right
on top of the pilot house roof. It was called a monkey bridge because it
was so difficult to get up there seasoned salts figured only a monkey
could clamber up there.
Flying bridge was a term used by fishermen for a rudimantary control
station on top of the wheel house for getting full vizibility all round
(360 degrees) when entering harbor. It rarely had anything but helm
and engine controls; none of those new fangled gadgets and meters and such.
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From: "Mark Andrew" msandrew@chartermi.net
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Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: T&T: Lower stations, do you use yours?
OK, just to throw a fly in the ointment, and get some of the old salts to
chime inb&.technically, I was told long ago (by a very old salt) that what
webre referring to as a b fly-bridgeb (that part of the upper deck
straddling the mid section and the pilothouse roof, should more properly
be
referred to as the b Monkey Bridgeb .
Comments?
Mark Andrew
b Black Riverb
Holland, MI
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OK, just to throw a fly in the ointment, and get some of the old salts
to chime in - technically, I was told long ago (by a very old salt) that
what webre referring to as a fly-bridge (that part of the upper deck
straddling the mid section and the pilothouse roof, should more
properly be referred to as the Monkey Bridge.
Mark,
What's with this "old salt" stuff? Hey, I like to think that I am a
not-so-old salt (even if more than a few hairs are getting salt colored),
and yes, I've steered a ship from the monkey bridge. It is just as you
described.
The WWI Liberty Ships had a conventional enclosed bridge that had very
limited visibility out the 12" port holes, so most of the conning was done
from the monkey bridge out in the open air, right on top of the pilot house.
You can see a picture of the monkey bridge on the SS John W. Brown at:
http://www.geoghegan.us/brown-cruise/jwb-cruise.htm Look halfway down the
page on the right side.
BTW- T&T is a plain text mailing list. Your post prior post had html
formatting instead of plain text - and that is what was causing the strange
characters in your post. If you switch to sending plain text, the web server
will not be stripping any html code, and no strange characters will be
showing up.
Kevin