Last bit about Hammo
I was asked a question today that I thought I would pass on.
"Why does it seem like only you and three or four other people care about or are upset by the ravaging and devastation at Hammonasset?"
Good question.....?
Mark Szantyr
Well I hope I'm counted among those 4-5 considering the amount of time I and Audubon (state and chapter) (and COA) have spent on the issue, admittedly not to satisfactory results as of yet, but that the west end amenities are confined to the area that is already blacktop and Meigs'overflow parking not being permanently altered may be at least partially the result of the discussions. I'm hoping we can move toward a phase of discussing improvements for birds and birding. To that end there has been a recent positive change regarding management of terms and plovers at Hammo where Audubon staff are now helping to mange those birds in the park. Maybe if some of the work we are doing at Stratford Point is successful in improving the habitat and birding there it could be emulated at other places like Hammo or Silver Sands?
Patrick
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On Jun 28, 2015, at 8:08 PM, Mark Szantyr via CTBirds ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org wrote:
I was asked a question today that I thought I would pass on.
"Why does it seem like only you and three or four other people care about or are upset by the ravaging and devastation at Hammonasset?"
Good question.....?
Mark Szantyr
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Five others!! :-)
K Mueller
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On Jun 28, 2015, at 8:08 PM, Mark Szantyr via CTBirds ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org wrote:
I was asked a question today that I thought I would pass on.
"Why does it seem like only you and three or four other people care about or are upset by the ravaging and devastation at Hammonasset?"
Good question.....?
Mark Szantyr
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Six others!
Carolyn Johns
Guilford
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Five others!! :-)
K Mueller
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On Jun 28, 2015, at 8:08 PM, Mark Szantyr via CTBirds
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I was asked a question today that I thought I would pass on.
"Why does it seem like only you and three or four other people care about
or are upset by the ravaging and devastation at Hammonasset?"
Good question.....?
Mark Szantyr
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Well its up to about 8.
Mark Szantyr
On Jun 28, 2015, at 8:08 PM, Mark Szantyr birdinggeek@gmail.com wrote:
I was asked a question today that I thought I would pass on.
"Why does it seem like only you and three or four other people care about or are upset by the ravaging and devastation at Hammonasset?"
Good question.....?
Mark Szantyr
A quote from a friend...
"...the CTBirds list is remarkably silent on these kinds of matters. Thing is, Hammo is visited by lots of birders. Why the silence? The apathy is scary.
I guess we have been around for a while (That's scary too). People don't see it. The park has undergone constant development over the last ten years. Permanent development including log cabins that take up open space, a middle bath house with a three story roof line, constant mowing and brush clearing, a bizarre sign trail, tree cutting at an active owl nest, filling of multiple shorebird rain pools, added millings to "improve" the middle beach parking, added trails and boardwalks thru dune habitat, and now a new nature center building project that makes a new footprint leaving the existing nature center building in place. Who knows what the west end will end up like. Add to this the park has allowed special interest take-overs of large parts of the park including huge lacrosse tournaments, kite festivals, cross country events, and more. Might as well put up a UCONN-south stadium.
Other states have environmental protection standards at their state parks."
Mark Szantyr
On Jun 28, 2015, at 8:08 PM, Mark Szantyr birdinggeek@gmail.com wrote:
I was asked a question today that I thought I would pass on.
"Why does it seem like only you and three or four other people care about or are upset by the ravaging and devastation at Hammonasset?"
Good question.....?
Mark Szantyr
10.....add my In-laws!! :-)
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On Jun 28, 2015, at 9:10 PM, Mark Szantyr via CTBirds ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org wrote:
Well its up to about 8.
Mark Szantyr
On Jun 28, 2015, at 8:08 PM, Mark Szantyr birdinggeek@gmail.com wrote:
I was asked a question today that I thought I would pass on.
"Why does it seem like only you and three or four other people care about or are upset by the ravaging and devastation at Hammonasset?"
Good question.....?
Mark Szantyr
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Add me -- but I feel powerless about what to do. Suggestions for concrete ways to influence what appears to be an administration that simply doesn’t care what anyone says and a DEEP that doesn’t do the right thing?
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10.....add my In-laws!! :-)
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On Jun 28, 2015, at 9:10 PM, Mark Szantyr via CTBirds ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org wrote:
Well its up to about 8.
Mark Szantyr
On Jun 28, 2015, at 8:08 PM, Mark Szantyr birdinggeek@gmail.com wrote:
I was asked a question today that I thought I would pass on.
"Why does it seem like only you and three or four other people care about or are upset by the ravaging and devastation at Hammonasset?"
Good question.....?
Mark Szantyr
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oops -- forgot to sign my message below -- Sarah Faulkner, Collinsville
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Add me -- but I feel powerless about what to do. Suggestions for concrete ways to influence what appears to be an administration that simply doesn’t care what anyone says and a DEEP that doesn’t do the right thing?
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10.....add my In-laws!! :-)
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On Jun 28, 2015, at 9:10 PM, Mark Szantyr via CTBirds ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org wrote:
Well its up to about 8.
Mark Szantyr
On Jun 28, 2015, at 8:08 PM, Mark Szantyr birdinggeek@gmail.com wrote:
I was asked a question today that I thought I would pass on.
"Why does it seem like only you and three or four other people care about or are upset by the ravaging and devastation at Hammonasset?"
Good question.....?
Mark Szantyr
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Mark,
Over the years, there have been many individuals who made a ruckus over each incident. I, for one, screamed to the heavens about the millings at the nature center parking lot. I wrote my representative and he asked for photos. I sent him photos. Then the Audubon liaison with the state and the DEP and state parks asked for my photos and details. With so many others voicing their outrage over the dumping of the millings in the nature center parking lot, there is now a “partnership” between Audubon and the state before anything is done. And I know those individuals who created the uproar about the tree cutting near the owl nest. I, among others, also reported the millings in the middle beach parking lot.
We were prepared for the west beach construction. That had to be done after Sandy. I agree about the Middle Beach monstrosity. The tree cutting on the entrance to the Middle Beach pavilion also got a lot of complaints from us local birders. I think all the middle beach work was planned before Audubon became more involved as a lobbying organization.
We’re not silent on these issues!
However, it seems that the new nature center project has developed without much opportunity for public comment. The fact that it is encroaching on new space is deplorable. And our protests now are too late though I’m sure it won’t stop us.
And to address Bev’s comment, despair over our powerlessness to protect Hammo has been growing ever since our complaints many years ago about protecting the nesting killdeers in the nature center parking lot. Yet we have a stronger voice now with the presence of Audubon through Sandy Breslin and Patrick Comins. I will continue to work with these people and this organization. They ARE making progress in these difficult times.
Sally Brown
Branford, CT
On Jun 28, 2015, at 9:10 PM, Mark Szantyr via CTBirds ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org wrote:
Well its up to about 8.
Mark Szantyr
On Jun 28, 2015, at 8:08 PM, Mark Szantyr birdinggeek@gmail.com wrote:
I was asked a question today that I thought I would pass on.
"Why does it seem like only you and three or four other people care about or are upset by the ravaging and devastation at Hammonasset?"
Good question.....?
Mark Szantyr
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