Hello, I am trying to compare the phase drifts between a 1PPS signal generated by a GPS receiver with a 1PPS from an OCXO( using a frequency divider to convert 10MHz to 1 PPS). I was thinking of using a TDC like the texas instruments TDC7200 boards. Do any of you have an idea for doing this? Let me know if you need more background on the kind of work I am trying to achieve. Thanks, Mayukh Mayukh Bagchi (He/Him), MSc Graduate Student Department of Physics, Engineering Physics, and Astronomy mayukh.bagchi@queensu.ca<mailto:mayukh.bagchi@queensu.ca> [Queen's University Logo]<https://www.queensu.ca/>

The "TICC" timestamping counter available from TAPR (https://tapr.org/product/tapr-ticc/) uses the TDC7200 to do this. The "gotcha" is that the TDC7200 has a limited measurement range. There are two operating modes: in one it measures from 12 ns to 500 ns, and in the other from 250 ns to 8 ms. That is a problem if the two devices you're measuring are too far apart in intial phase, or if they are too close together, or if there is drift between them that crosses the boundaries. To get around that, the TICC uses two TDC7200s operating more or less independently, but sharing a common internal timescale. It calculates time interval by subtracting the timescale value of the pulse on the "start" channel from that of the pulse on the stop channel, and as a result the measurement range is from a very large negative number to a very large positive number, with no dead zone around 0 seconds. It can also output raw timestamps from either or both channels for external processing, which in many cases is more versatile than using a traditional time interval measurement. Hope this helps, John ---- On 10/3/22 16:33, Mayukh Bagchi via time-nuts wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to compare the phase drifts between a 1PPS signal generated by a GPS receiver with a 1PPS from an OCXO( using a frequency divider to convert 10MHz to 1 PPS). > I was thinking of using a TDC like the texas instruments TDC7200 boards. > Do any of you have an idea for doing this? > > Let me know if you need more background on the kind of work I am trying to achieve. > > Thanks, > Mayukh > > Mayukh Bagchi (He/Him), MSc > Graduate Student > Department of Physics, Engineering Physics, and Astronomy > > mayukh.bagchi@queensu.ca<mailto:mayukh.bagchi@queensu.ca> > [Queen's University Logo]<https://www.queensu.ca/> > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com

On 10/3/22 1:33 PM, Mayukh Bagchi via time-nuts wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to compare the phase drifts between a 1PPS signal generated by a GPS receiver with a 1PPS from an OCXO( using a frequency divider to convert 10MHz to 1 PPS). > I was thinking of using a TDC like the texas instruments TDC7200 boards. > Do any of you have an idea for doing this? Rather than fool with eval boards and such, what you want is the TAPR TICC, which has the TDC7200 onboard, but also all the other glue you need. https://tapr.org/product/tapr-ticc/ 60 ps timing, etc > > Let me know if you need more background on the kind of work I am trying to achieve. > > Thanks, > Mayukh > > Mayukh Bagchi (He/Him), MSc > Graduate Student > Department of Physics, Engineering Physics, and Astronomy > > mayukh.bagchi@queensu.ca<mailto:mayukh.bagchi@queensu.ca> > [Queen's University Logo]<https://www.queensu.ca/> > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com >

Hello John This is interesting! Thanks Mayukh Mayukh Bagchi (He/Him), MSc Graduate Student Department of Physics, Engineering Physics, and Astronomy mayukh.bagchi@queensu.ca<mailto:mayukh.bagchi@queensu.ca> [Queen's University Logo]<https://www.queensu.ca/> ________________________________ From: John Ackermann N8UR via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 4:59 PM To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> Cc: John Ackermann N8UR <jra@febo.com> Subject: [time-nuts] Re: Compairing the phase drifts between two PPS signals The "TICC" timestamping counter available from TAPR (https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftapr.org%2Fproduct%2Ftapr-ticc%2F&amp;data=05%7C01%7Cmayukh.bagchi%40queensu.ca%7C884c8cefb71841b1025408daa5841091%7Cd61ecb3b38b142d582c4efb2838b925c%7C1%7C0%7C638004283874376111%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=gssMZnxezpilblySN9M0HytdBx2K0ve0GW09kg5W%2FDA%3D&amp;reserved=0) uses the TDC7200 to do this. The "gotcha" is that the TDC7200 has a limited measurement range. There are two operating modes: in one it measures from 12 ns to 500 ns, and in the other from 250 ns to 8 ms. That is a problem if the two devices you're measuring are too far apart in intial phase, or if they are too close together, or if there is drift between them that crosses the boundaries. To get around that, the TICC uses two TDC7200s operating more or less independently, but sharing a common internal timescale. It calculates time interval by subtracting the timescale value of the pulse on the "start" channel from that of the pulse on the stop channel, and as a result the measurement range is from a very large negative number to a very large positive number, with no dead zone around 0 seconds. It can also output raw timestamps from either or both channels for external processing, which in many cases is more versatile than using a traditional time interval measurement. Hope this helps, John ---- On 10/3/22 16:33, Mayukh Bagchi via time-nuts wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to compare the phase drifts between a 1PPS signal generated by a GPS receiver with a 1PPS from an OCXO( using a frequency divider to convert 10MHz to 1 PPS). > I was thinking of using a TDC like the texas instruments TDC7200 boards. > Do any of you have an idea for doing this? > > Let me know if you need more background on the kind of work I am trying to achieve. > > Thanks, > Mayukh > > Mayukh Bagchi (He/Him), MSc > Graduate Student > Department of Physics, Engineering Physics, and Astronomy > > mayukh.bagchi@queensu.ca<mailto:mayukh.bagchi@queensu.ca> > [Queen's University Logo]<https://www.queensu.ca/> > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com