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TWL: Re: Injection pump leak

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Rich Gano
Wed, Jul 10, 2002 6:37 PM

Understanding that the fuel injection pump is an item the
owner is "not allowed to mess with," I was nonetheless
reluctant to remove one of mine just because I was getting
nuisance leakage.  Years ago I had this same pump overhauled
to the tune of $600, and I was not about to just give up and
go through the trouble of removal and reinstallation and
cost for this miserable little leak.

This is a Simms pump (I no nothing of CAV pumps), and the
leak was coming from around the bottom of the outlet nipple
for the number two injector.  There is a hex tubing nut
holding the actual steel injector line to the top of this
nipple, but tightening the nut with a tubing wrench did not
stop the problem.  Unfortunately, the nipple itself is
tightened using a special, finely-toothed socket, which I
did not have.

A call to the nearest pump overhauler I could find (Mobile,
Al, 160 miles away) revealed that I could purchase this tool
for a whole lot less than the cost of having them look into
my problem.  The guy there gave me the proper torque, and,
voila, problem solved.  Hope yours is as easy to fix.

Rich Gano
CALYPSO (GB42-295)
Homeport Southport, FL
I'd rather be cruisin'

Understanding that the fuel injection pump is an item the owner is "not allowed to mess with," I was nonetheless reluctant to remove one of mine just because I was getting nuisance leakage. Years ago I had this same pump overhauled to the tune of $600, and I was not about to just give up and go through the trouble of removal and reinstallation and cost for this miserable little leak. This is a Simms pump (I no nothing of CAV pumps), and the leak was coming from around the bottom of the outlet nipple for the number two injector. There is a hex tubing nut holding the actual steel injector line to the top of this nipple, but tightening the nut with a tubing wrench did not stop the problem. Unfortunately, the nipple itself is tightened using a special, finely-toothed socket, which I did not have. A call to the nearest pump overhauler I could find (Mobile, Al, 160 miles away) revealed that I could purchase this tool for a whole lot less than the cost of having them look into my problem. The guy there gave me the proper torque, and, voila, problem solved. Hope yours is as easy to fix. Rich Gano CALYPSO (GB42-295) Homeport Southport, FL I'd rather be cruisin'
DS
Dan Symula
Wed, Jul 10, 2002 9:23 PM

I made some calls yesterday about this. Mostly I got
"Take it off, send it to us and we will give you an
estimate." I dont really like this, since once its
there you are essentially comitted no matter the
price. One guy however asked what kind it was. He then
said something like I bet its leaking from the
throttle connetion area right? Yup this was the case.
The explaination was when this particular model gets
older, it wears inside where the connection is. Its
apparently fairly common. Min. 4 hours service plus
parts, plus shipping, plus me screaming on how to get
it back in properly timed.

Incidentally, the rebuild on this can be quite
expensive depending on what is wrong. I was asked if
the engine was starting ok or not. Yes it starts
immediately easily every time. If not, then this
(could) mean another part inside the pump is shot, a
very expensive part.

I did find a company that says they have the shop
manual for sale for this for 85.00 . Im thinking of
getting it and going it since I got a simple
expalnation on what it most likely is.

--- Rich Gano rgano@mantech-pc.com wrote:

Understanding that the fuel injection pump is an
item the
owner is "not allowed to mess with," I was
nonetheless
reluctant to remove one of mine just because I was
getting
nuisance leakage.  Years ago I had this same pump
overhauled
to the tune of $600, and I was not about to just
give up and
go through the trouble of removal and reinstallation
and
cost for this miserable little leak.

This is a Simms pump (I no nothing of CAV pumps),
and the
leak was coming from around the bottom of the outlet
nipple
for the number two injector.  There is a hex tubing
nut
holding the actual steel injector line to the top of
this
nipple, but tightening the nut with a tubing wrench
did not
stop the problem.  Unfortunately, the nipple itself
is
tightened using a special, finely-toothed socket,
which I
did not have.

A call to the nearest pump overhauler I could find
(Mobile,
Al, 160 miles away) revealed that I could purchase
this tool
for a whole lot less than the cost of having them
look into
my problem.  The guy there gave me the proper
torque, and,
voila, problem solved.  Hope yours is as easy to
fix.

Rich Gano
CALYPSO (GB42-295)
Homeport Southport, FL
I'd rather be cruisin'


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I made some calls yesterday about this. Mostly I got "Take it off, send it to us and we will give you an estimate." I dont really like this, since once its there you are essentially comitted no matter the price. One guy however asked what kind it was. He then said something like I bet its leaking from the throttle connetion area right? Yup this was the case. The explaination was when this particular model gets older, it wears inside where the connection is. Its apparently fairly common. Min. 4 hours service plus parts, plus shipping, plus me screaming on how to get it back in properly timed. Incidentally, the rebuild on this can be quite expensive depending on what is wrong. I was asked if the engine was starting ok or not. Yes it starts immediately easily every time. If not, then this (could) mean another part inside the pump is shot, a very expensive part. I did find a company that says they have the shop manual for sale for this for 85.00 . Im thinking of getting it and going it since I got a simple expalnation on what it most likely is. --- Rich Gano <rgano@mantech-pc.com> wrote: > Understanding that the fuel injection pump is an > item the > owner is "not allowed to mess with," I was > nonetheless > reluctant to remove one of mine just because I was > getting > nuisance leakage. Years ago I had this same pump > overhauled > to the tune of $600, and I was not about to just > give up and > go through the trouble of removal and reinstallation > and > cost for this miserable little leak. > > This is a Simms pump (I no nothing of CAV pumps), > and the > leak was coming from around the bottom of the outlet > nipple > for the number two injector. There is a hex tubing > nut > holding the actual steel injector line to the top of > this > nipple, but tightening the nut with a tubing wrench > did not > stop the problem. Unfortunately, the nipple itself > is > tightened using a special, finely-toothed socket, > which I > did not have. > > A call to the nearest pump overhauler I could find > (Mobile, > Al, 160 miles away) revealed that I could purchase > this tool > for a whole lot less than the cost of having them > look into > my problem. The guy there gave me the proper > torque, and, > voila, problem solved. Hope yours is as easy to > fix. > > Rich Gano > CALYPSO (GB42-295) > Homeport Southport, FL > I'd rather be cruisin' > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawler-world-list ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com