Yes, Mark, expediency is an important factor. Ebird is great for preserving the records of the Nuthatch & Brambling; this list is great for getting confirmation and alerting our colleagues to the Brambling. A great additional feature of ebird would be regional notification of reports of rare birds. But the best is having the bird clearly in view. Good birding! Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 26, 2014, at 10:33 PM, Mark Szantyr <birdinggeek@gmail.com> wrote: > > And when birders communicate accurately and expediently. Ebird is a fine tool. It is NOT good for rare bird notification. Again, fine for kinglets and nuthatches.... Not good for Bramblings or Mountsin Bluebirds > > Mark Szantyr > >> On Nov 26, 2014, at 10:21 PM, Arthur Shippee via CTBirds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: >> >> Birding is good when the birds are good. >> >> There can also be scientific and personal goals. We can be good scientists by using ebird; we can be good friends through this CT list. It's not hard to do both. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 26, 2014, at 10:03 PM, Keith Mueller via CTBirds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: >>> >>> Absolutely....back when birding was good!! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quoting Mark Szantyr <birdinggeek@gmail.com>: >>> >>>> I prefer the good old phone call sbout a good bird in real time while it is still present. >>>> >>>> Mark Szantyr >>>> >>>>> On Nov 26, 2014, at 9:38 PM, Keith Mueller via CTBirds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Interesting....brings up a good point- ebird or not to ebird! Sure diffuses those exciting CTBIrds alerts when someone finds a bird in "real time" rather than seeing an obscure report days later when the bird has probably left the area. >>>>> >>>>> I still like and prefer CTBIrds alerts! >>>>> >>>>> Keith Mueller >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Quoting "Comins, Patrick via CTBirds" <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org>: >>>>> >>>>>> I was searching ebird for some birds I still need photos of and noticed a Northern Shrike was reported from Haddam Meadows State Park. Photos were included: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S20662489? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't recall seeing any word of it come across on CTBirds...and my brain is pretty keyed in on the word shrike as emails come in at the moment :) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Patrick >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Patrick M. Comins >>>>>> Director of Bird Conservation >>>>>> >>>>>> Audubon Connecticut >>>>>> 185 East Flat Hill Road >>>>>> Southbury, CT 06488 >>>>>> >>>>>> Phone: (203)264-5098 x308 >>>>>> >>>>>> Fax: (203)264-6332 >>>>>> >>>>>> pcomins@audubon.org >>>>>> http://iba.audubon.org/iba/viewState.do?state=US-CT >>>>>> Audubon Connecticut is on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/AudubonCT >>>>>> Friends of Conte is on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Friends-of-the-Silvio-O-Conte-National-Fish-and-Wildlife-Refuge/121976791147545?v=wall >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. >>>>>> For subscription information visit http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. >>>>> For subscription information visit http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. >>> For subscription information visit http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. >> For subscription information visit http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org

Arthur wrote: "A great additional feature of ebird would be regional notification of reports of rare birds." Check http://ebird.org/ebird/alerts and see the section "Rare Bird Alerts - Email alerts for rare birds in a particular area." I am subscribed to get rare bird alerts from eBird for CT on an hourly (more or less) basis. The definition of what is rare varies by the date; I believe a suitably knowledgeable CT birder defines the species and date ranges that qualify for alerts, possibly by county. (I did not see such a notice for the Northern Shrike, but I might have deleted it by mistake. Also it is possible to tell eBird not to send your sightings out on such alerts so it might have been never been sent.) Roy Harvey Beacon Falls, CT

This is not about preserving the record, it is about seeing the bird. The listserv is fine as long as you are willing to gamble on the bird staying till you check your inbox. Phone calls are still better. Ebird has some value. Just not in getting people to see a bird in a timely manner. Mark Szantyr > On Nov 26, 2014, at 10:54 PM, Arthur Shippee via CTBirds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: > > Yes, Mark, expediency is an important factor. Ebird is great for preserving the records of the Nuthatch & Brambling; this list is great for getting confirmation and alerting our colleagues to the Brambling. > > A great additional feature of ebird would be regional notification of reports of rare birds. > > But the best is having the bird clearly in view. > > Good birding! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 26, 2014, at 10:33 PM, Mark Szantyr <birdinggeek@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> And when birders communicate accurately and expediently. Ebird is a fine tool. It is NOT good for rare bird notification. Again, fine for kinglets and nuthatches.... Not good for Bramblings or Mountsin Bluebirds >> >> Mark Szantyr >> >>> On Nov 26, 2014, at 10:21 PM, Arthur Shippee via CTBirds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: >>> >>> Birding is good when the birds are good. >>> >>> There can also be scientific and personal goals. We can be good scientists by using ebird; we can be good friends through this CT list. It's not hard to do both. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Nov 26, 2014, at 10:03 PM, Keith Mueller via CTBirds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Absolutely....back when birding was good!! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Quoting Mark Szantyr <birdinggeek@gmail.com>: >>>> >>>>> I prefer the good old phone call sbout a good bird in real time while it is still present. >>>>> >>>>> Mark Szantyr >>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 26, 2014, at 9:38 PM, Keith Mueller via CTBirds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Interesting....brings up a good point- ebird or not to ebird! Sure diffuses those exciting CTBIrds alerts when someone finds a bird in "real time" rather than seeing an obscure report days later when the bird has probably left the area. >>>>>> >>>>>> I still like and prefer CTBIrds alerts! >>>>>> >>>>>> Keith Mueller >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Quoting "Comins, Patrick via CTBirds" <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I was searching ebird for some birds I still need photos of and noticed a Northern Shrike was reported from Haddam Meadows State Park. Photos were included: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S20662489? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't recall seeing any word of it come across on CTBirds...and my brain is pretty keyed in on the word shrike as emails come in at the moment :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Patrick >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Patrick M. Comins >>>>>>> Director of Bird Conservation >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Audubon Connecticut >>>>>>> 185 East Flat Hill Road >>>>>>> Southbury, CT 06488 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Phone: (203)264-5098 x308 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fax: (203)264-6332 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> pcomins@audubon.org >>>>>>> http://iba.audubon.org/iba/viewState.do?state=US-CT >>>>>>> Audubon Connecticut is on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/AudubonCT >>>>>>> Friends of Conte is on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Friends-of-the-Silvio-O-Conte-National-Fish-and-Wildlife-Refuge/121976791147545?v=wall >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. >>>>>>> For subscription information visit http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. >>>>>> For subscription information visit http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. >>>> For subscription information visit http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. >>> For subscription information visit http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org > > _______________________________________________ > This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > For subscription information visit http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org

It is good and i use it. Sometimes hourly is not soon enough. Mark Szantyr > On Nov 26, 2014, at 11:23 PM, Roy Harvey via CTBirds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: > > Arthur wrote: "A great additional feature of ebird would be regional notification of reports of rare birds." > > Check http://ebird.org/ebird/alerts and see the section "Rare Bird Alerts - Email alerts for rare birds in a particular area." > > I am subscribed to get rare bird alerts from eBird for CT on an hourly (more or less) basis. The definition of what is rare varies by the date; I believe a suitably knowledgeable CT birder defines the species and date ranges that qualify for alerts, possibly by county. (I did not see such a notice for the Northern Shrike, but I might have deleted it by mistake. Also it is possible to tell eBird not to send your sightings out on such alerts so it might have been never been sent.) > > > Roy Harvey > Beacon Falls, CT > > _______________________________________________ > This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > For subscription information visit http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org

I didn't know that Roy, That would be a great feature if the alerts were timely by the one who is reporting the rare birds. But not sure how impressive that will be if the person who spotted the rare bird at 8:00 am in the morning on the way to work didn't record it on ebird until after supper that night after the kids were tucked in. The CTBirds Listserv is still the undisputed champ for alerting everyone in a timely manner for birds seen in our small State. Keep up the great work Roy!! Keith Quoting Roy Harvey via CTBirds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org>: > Arthur wrote: "A great additional feature of ebird would be regional > notification of reports of rare birds." > > Check http://ebird.org/ebird/alerts and see the section "Rare Bird > Alerts - Email alerts for rare birds in a particular area." > > I am subscribed to get rare bird alerts from eBird for CT on an > hourly (more or less) basis. The definition of what is rare varies > by the date; I believe a suitably knowledgeable CT birder defines > the species and date ranges that qualify for alerts, possibly by > county. (I did not see such a notice for the Northern Shrike, but I > might have deleted it by mistake. Also it is possible to tell eBird > not to send your sightings out on such alerts so it might have been > never been sent.) > > > Roy Harvey > Beacon Falls, CT > > _______________________________________________ > This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association > (COA) for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > For subscription information visit > http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org > >