Folks, Didier has kindly given me some web space to hold these files. For those that emailed me and others who are interested, please visit: http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl?dir=5)_GPS_Timing/VNG_Time_Station BR_002 is the regular announcement that occurred every 15 minutes that you will all know and love. BR_006 is the final couple of minutes before the death of VNG. If it doesn't send a shiver down your spine then I'm sorry you cannot call yourself a "time-nut". :-) Regards, Jim

> Didier has kindly given me some web space to hold these files. For those > that emailed me and others who are interested, please visit: > > http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl?dir=5)_GPS_Timing/VNG_Time_Station > Snip. I finally got around to listening to these. It sets me to wondering how long it will be before the U S government decides it can save money by taking WWV off the air. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: max@maxsmusicplace.com Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, funwithtubes-subscribe@yahoogroups.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Palfreyman" <jim77742@gmail.com> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" <time-nuts@febo.com> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 6:55 PM Subject: [time-nuts] VNG sound files > Folks, > > Didier has kindly given me some web space to hold these files. For those > that emailed me and others who are interested, please visit: > > http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl?dir=5)_GPS_Timing/VNG_Time_Station > > BR_002 is the regular announcement that occurred every 15 minutes that you > will all know and love. > BR_006 is the final couple of minutes before the death of VNG. If it > doesn't > send a shiver down your spine then I'm sorry you cannot call yourself a > "time-nut". > > :-) > > Regards, > > Jim > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > >

Well let me be the devil's advocate and also put the cat amongst the pigeons here... With GPS, what actually is the use of a SW time signal? Jim 2008/9/14 Max Robinson <max@maxsmusicplace.com> > > Didier has kindly given me some web space to hold these files. For those > > that emailed me and others who are interested, please visit: > > > > > http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl?dir=5)_GPS_Timing/VNG_Time_Station<http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl?dir=5%29_GPS_Timing/VNG_Time_Station> > > > Snip. > > > I finally got around to listening to these. It sets me to wondering how > long it will be before the U S government decides it can save money by > taking WWV off the air. > > Regards. > > Max. K 4 O D S. > > Email: max@maxsmusicplace.com > > Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net > Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net > Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com > > To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, > funwithtubes-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Palfreyman" <jim77742@gmail.com> > To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" > <time-nuts@febo.com> > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 6:55 PM > Subject: [time-nuts] VNG sound files > > > > Folks, > > > > Didier has kindly given me some web space to hold these files. For those > > that emailed me and others who are interested, please visit: > > > > > http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl?dir=5)_GPS_Timing/VNG_Time_Station<http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl?dir=5%29_GPS_Timing/VNG_Time_Station> > > > > BR_002 is the regular announcement that occurred every 15 minutes that > you > > will all know and love. > > BR_006 is the final couple of minutes before the death of VNG. If it > > doesn't > > send a shiver down your spine then I'm sorry you cannot call yourself a > > "time-nut". > > > > :-) > > > > Regards, > > > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >

Hi Jim: The HF and LF time signals are the only broadcast time signals that have daylight savings time bits. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.prc68.com/P/Prod.html Products I make and sell http://www.prc68.com/Alpha.shtml All my web pages listed based on html name http://www.PRC68.com http://www.precisionclock.com http://www.prc68.com/I/WebCam2.shtml 24/7 Sky-Weather-Astronomy Web Cam Jim Palfreyman wrote: > Well let me be the devil's advocate and also put the cat amongst the pigeons > here... > > With GPS, what actually is the use of a SW time signal? > > Jim > > > 2008/9/14 Max Robinson <max@maxsmusicplace.com> > >>> Didier has kindly given me some web space to hold these files. For those >>> that emailed me and others who are interested, please visit: >>> >>> >> http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl?dir=5)_GPS_Timing/VNG_Time_Station<http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl?dir=5%29_GPS_Timing/VNG_Time_Station> >> Snip. >> >> >> I finally got around to listening to these. It sets me to wondering how >> long it will be before the U S government decides it can save money by >> taking WWV off the air. >> >> Regards. >> >> Max. K 4 O D S. >> >> Email: max@maxsmusicplace.com >> >> Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net >> Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net >> Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com >> >> To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, >> funwithtubes-subscribe@yahoogroups.com >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jim Palfreyman" <jim77742@gmail.com> >> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" >> <time-nuts@febo.com> >> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 6:55 PM >> Subject: [time-nuts] VNG sound files >> >> >>> Folks, >>> >>> Didier has kindly given me some web space to hold these files. For those >>> that emailed me and others who are interested, please visit: >>> >>> >> http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl?dir=5)_GPS_Timing/VNG_Time_Station<http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl?dir=5%29_GPS_Timing/VNG_Time_Station> >>> BR_002 is the regular announcement that occurred every 15 minutes that >> you >>> will all know and love. >>> BR_006 is the final couple of minutes before the death of VNG. If it >>> doesn't >>> send a shiver down your spine then I'm sorry you cannot call yourself a >>> "time-nut". >>> >>> :-) >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Jim >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>> To unsubscribe, go to >>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>> and follow the instructions there. >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >

On 9/14/08 12:57 AM, "Jim Palfreyman" <jim77742@gmail.com> wrote: > Well let me be the devil's advocate and also put the cat amongst the pigeons > here... > > With GPS, what actually is the use of a SW time signal? > > Jim --- Some off the cuff, before that first cup of coffee, answers: WWV provides more than a time signal.. There¹s propagation bulletins, storm warnings, etc. Yes, there are alternate solutions for these things, sat phones, etc.. However, there's something very resilient about a system which relies only on me having a single piece of gear (an HF receiver) and for which the infrastructure is fairly limited, which provides a variety of capabilities. The GPS receiver provides accurate nav and time, but doesn't do weather. The WEFAX off the satellite does weather, but doesn't do nav and time. The satphone does comm and low rate data, but not nav, time, or weather. I can receive WWV indoors. (so, when it's raining outside, I can still time my cookie baking with atomic precision.) Maybe, though, I *am* a codger, and you're right, if one takes a dispassionate look at the "system requirements" there is no need for HF time signals that can't be met in other ways.

On 9/14/08 1:01 AM, "Brooke Clarke" <brooke@pacific.net> wrote: > Hi Jim: > > The HF and LF time signals are the only broadcast time signals that have > daylight savings time bits. So, maybe if we do away with radio time signals, we can do away with DST? Cool deal! Jim Lux