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SeaLubber7@aol.com
Thu, Jul 8, 2010 4:39 PM

As most  of you know it is easy to get air into the AC cooling pump
creating an air lock that the pump will not over come. When you haul a boat  it
will do it also, and so will a "dripless" shaft seal. Some "dripless" seals
have water injections also, but need to be burped if drained. It is easy to
install a vent into the AC pump plumbing that will vent the air and allow
the pump to pick up water. Andina also sells a vent kit to do this. I just
thought I would mention this since Wayne mentioned having the  problem.

As most of you know it is easy to get air into the AC cooling pump creating an air lock that the pump will not over come. When you haul a boat it will do it also, and so will a "dripless" shaft seal. Some "dripless" seals have water injections also, but need to be burped if drained. It is easy to install a vent into the AC pump plumbing that will vent the air and allow the pump to pick up water. Andina also sells a vent kit to do this. I just thought I would mention this since Wayne mentioned having the problem.
BH
Brent Hodges
Thu, Jul 8, 2010 10:58 PM

As most  of you know it is easy to get air into the AC cooling pump
creating an air lock that the pump will not over come. (endsnip)

If the system is properly installed, it shouldn't need burping. Of course,
"properly installed" doesn't seem to be done very often. Long story short,
the thru-hull, strainer, and pump need to be below the water line, and the
lines all uphill with no dips. Also the output of the pump needs to go
uphill for long enough (ideally all the way to the a/c unit) for the air to
work it's way out on it's own. At least far enough for the air to get past
the pump.
I paid special attention to all of this when I installed the 3 a/c units on
Friendship, and through some pretty rough seas, and numerous haul outs, I've
never had to burp my system.

Brent Hodges

> As most of you know it is easy to get air into the AC cooling pump > creating an air lock that the pump will not over come. (endsnip) If the system is properly installed, it shouldn't need burping. Of course, "properly installed" doesn't seem to be done very often. Long story short, the thru-hull, strainer, and pump need to be below the water line, and the lines all uphill with no dips. Also the output of the pump needs to go uphill for long enough (ideally all the way to the a/c unit) for the air to work it's way out on it's own. At least far enough for the air to get past the pump. I paid special attention to all of this when I installed the 3 a/c units on Friendship, and through some pretty rough seas, and numerous haul outs, I've never had to burp my system. Brent Hodges
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Rudy and Jill
Fri, Jul 9, 2010 12:30 AM

the thru-hull, strainer,
and pump need to be below the water line, and the lines all
uphill with no dips. Also the output of the pump needs to go
uphill for long enough (ideally all the way to the a/c unit)
for the air to work it's way out on it's own. At least far
enough for the air to get past the pump.

What a good point Brent made, and for those who have systems not installed like this, they should consider revamping it if at all possible.

Last summer I had an opportunity to replace a fella's A/C pump, his third since being in Fl, and he'd only been here for 6 months. During the installation I noticed several dips in various lines, in addition to the original pump's location being slightly above the water line.

Seems the initial installer insisted that those few inches wouldn't matter. He was constantly losing prime, something that his asthma did not tolerate very well, nor his wife.

We lowered the pump and removed the dips in the lines and everything started working like it should and hasn't burned out a pump since. Installed an in-line zinc housing to an engine that had no zincs in it also. (Just had to say that. It had nothing to do with the A/C, but telling the story brought back fond memories of doing that job also.)

Maybe up north, losing prime in an A/C system may not be a major, life-altering occurrence, but down here in these parts, the folks tend to take losing their A/C as a major inconvenience.

Rudy
Briney Bug, Panama City, Fl

> the thru-hull, strainer, > and pump need to be below the water line, and the lines all > uphill with no dips. Also the output of the pump needs to go > uphill for long enough (ideally all the way to the a/c unit) > for the air to work it's way out on it's own. At least far > enough for the air to get past the pump. What a good point Brent made, and for those who have systems not installed like this, they should consider revamping it if at all possible. Last summer I had an opportunity to replace a fella's A/C pump, his third since being in Fl, and he'd only been here for 6 months. During the installation I noticed several dips in various lines, in addition to the original pump's location being slightly above the water line. Seems the initial installer insisted that those few inches wouldn't matter. He was constantly losing prime, something that his asthma did not tolerate very well, nor his wife. We lowered the pump and removed the dips in the lines and everything started working like it should and hasn't burned out a pump since. Installed an in-line zinc housing to an engine that had no zincs in it also. (Just had to say that. It had nothing to do with the A/C, but telling the story brought back fond memories of doing that job also.) Maybe up north, losing prime in an A/C system may not be a major, life-altering occurrence, but down here in these parts, the folks tend to take losing their A/C as a major inconvenience. Rudy Briney Bug, Panama City, Fl
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Keith
Sun, Jul 11, 2010 2:35 PM

I just put a check valve on the seacock using a bronze hex nipple. Never had
that problem again.

Keith

Live your life so that when you die, the preacher will not have to tell lies
at your funeral.


-----Original Message-----

As most  of you know it is easy to get air into the AC cooling pump creating
an air lock that the pump will not over come. When you haul a boat  it will
do it also, and so will a "dripless" shaft seal. Some "dripless" seals have
water injections also, but need to be burped if drained. It is easy to
install a vent into the AC pump plumbing that will vent the air and allow
the pump to pick up water. Andina also sells a vent kit to do this. I just
thought I would mention this since Wayne mentioned having the  problem.


I just put a check valve on the seacock using a bronze hex nipple. Never had that problem again. Keith Live your life so that when you die, the preacher will not have to tell lies at your funeral. ________________ -----Original Message----- As most of you know it is easy to get air into the AC cooling pump creating an air lock that the pump will not over come. When you haul a boat it will do it also, and so will a "dripless" shaft seal. Some "dripless" seals have water injections also, but need to be burped if drained. It is easy to install a vent into the AC pump plumbing that will vent the air and allow the pump to pick up water. Andina also sells a vent kit to do this. I just thought I would mention this since Wayne mentioned having the problem. _______________________________________________