"...Grand Banks and Lehmans are not anywhere near the top of our list of desirables." And there we have an honestly arrived at decision with which I can empathize, a little. However, despite owning this one forever and sometimes getting tired of the wood hull upkeep (a negative that daunts about 99.9% of boaters), I don't think my GB with Lehmans is my last boat, and it currently has enough "desirables" to keep me owning it. However, it may be my last trawler because once I am done with longer trips and become content with only puttering around the local bays, I am going to want a smaller, lighter, faster diesel-powered vessel that I can hoist out of the water on a lift constructed under my covered slip. I like the older version of the Luhrs Alura model. In addition to whatever negatives the hull, internal arrangement, and engineering may hold for the individual, owning a big boat like a trawler has its ups and downs, and it can wear on you. Almost like a child, responsibility for it never ceases until the day you sell it or you die. If it sinks, you are responsible for the cleanup expenses; if it is involved in an accident, you have responsibilities; if somebody claims you waked them, you could be liable; etc; etc. It's easy to see why many folks want nothing to do with all this, but thank goodness the positives outweigh all the other stuff for us privileged few. Rich Gano CALYPSO (GB-42 #295) Southport, FL (near Panama City)