Re: T&T: Rescue of Sick Crew menber in Carribean by Coral Princess
Chuck: You are truly blessed as you have many lifetimes of experience and
knowledge. It is a blessing or something that you are so willing to share all
your vast lifetimes of experience with us Plebes. Please keep your all too
frequent emails flying as I need the entertainment. It is cold and dark here
this time of year. Perhaps after you invent cold fusion that will be
eliminated.
Don't like it do you? Neither did the person you were rude to. You should
apologize.
Bob
Toronto
M1B3G8
--- On Fri, 12/26/08, Chuck and Susan sea_trek_2000@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Chuck and Susan sea_trek_2000@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: T&T: Rescue of Sick Crew menber in Carribean by Coral Princess
To: "Trawler and Trawlering" trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Received: Friday, December 26,
2008, 7:33 PM
As I said if you have never been there you just don't know. You luff the
sails when you want to slow the boat down and tighten sheets when you need to
get moving again. If the rescue craft says slow down, you let the sails flog.
I
have to ask how often you have sailed in those conditions and how many
rescues
have you been involved in? We have sailed in those conditions so I can speak
first hand. We have been involved in rescues in adverse conditions and can
speak
first hand. As for being out in that weather, have you never left on a great
forecast and have the weather slam shut on you? If you have never had that
experience then you have never done any offshore cruising. We have tens of
thousands of miles under our keel in every imaginable conditions. It is
wonderful how folks can sit at a computer and criticize. Unless you have been
there and done that you have no idea what needs to be done in
those
circumstances. I guess my question to you is, are you
or have you ever been in those circumstances personally?
Chuck
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--- On Fri, 12/26/08, Ryan R. Healy ryan.healy@healyautogroup.com
wrote:
From: Ryan R. Healy ryan.healy@healyautogroup.com
Subject: RE: T&T: Rescue of Sick Crew menber in Carribean by Coral
Princess
To: sea_trek_2000@yahoo.com, "'Trawler and Trawlering'"
Date: Friday, December 26, 2008, 7:02 PM
The sheet wasn't even trimmed -- just flapping in the
breeze which doesn't
help out in the least bit, as evidenced by the video.
If he was going to keep the sails up during a rescue
attempt like that, then
he should have kept the
sails trimmed, on speed and on
course and let the
rescue vessel come alongside. But to sit there and
flounder around with the
main flapping away only served to make a difficult rescue
even more
hazardous.
-Ryan
-----Original Message-----
From: trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com
[mailto:trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com]
On Behalf Of
Chuck and Susan
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 5:28 PM
To: Trawler and Trawlering
Subject: Re: T&T: Rescue of Sick Crew menber in
Carribean by Coral Princess
I can tell you as a sailor for 30 years that lower that
main would have
increased the roll on the sail boat and caused even more
issues. That sail
did help to steady the boat even though it did not look
like it. Been
in
those seas and know full well that the LAST thing you want
to do is take
down all sails. There is no way in those seas that anyone
would keep the
boat pointing in one direction unless it is under sail and
under way. The
waves and swells would have quickly over powered it. It is
easy to speculate
sitting at the computer watching a video. But if you have
been out there you
have a much better appreciation for the job both crews did.
Best thing that
sailboat skipper could do is hold course and speed and keep
the boat under
control while letting the more powerful and maneuverable
rescue boat do the
work. Chuck
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--- On Fri, 12/26/08, Ryan R.
Healy
From: Ryan R. Healy
Subject: Re: T&T: Rescue of Sick Crew menber in
Carribean by Coral
Princess
To: "'Gregory Han'"
hangreg@gmail.com, "'trawlers'"
trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com,
"'AGLCA'"
AGLCA@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, December 26, 2008, 6:16 PM
Incredible job by the Princess crew.
I am also incredibly disappointed by the remarks
posted on
YouTube by the
crew of the s/v Illusions. Of course it was a
dangerous
rescue and clearly
conditions that such a small sailboat should have not
been
sailing in.
If the vessel was damaged to such a
great degree that
the
remaining crew
were left in "extreme danger", they should
have
hopped on the rescue boat
when it was right in front of them and sold their
little
sailboat to the
insurance company.
Further, the captain of the Illusions should have
lowered
his sails to help
in the rescue effort. This would have helped keep the
boat
from bobbing
around like a cork in the ocean. If he would have
done
that simple task and
kept the boat pointed in one direction instead of
wallowing
back and fourth
45 degrees to either side, the crew of the rescue boat
would have probably
had much less of a life threatening challenge on their
hands.
-Ryan
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Just re-read my post and found nothing rude in it whatsoever and my questions
were pertinent to the discussion so see nothing whatsoever to apologize for.
Chuck
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--- On Fri, 12/26/08, Bob Smith oldtrawlerguy@yahoo.ca wrote:
From: Bob Smith oldtrawlerguy@yahoo.ca
Subject: Re: T&T: Rescue of Sick Crew menber in Carribean by Coral Princess
To: "Trawler and Trawlering" trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com,
sea_trek_2000@yahoo.com
Date: Friday, December 26, 2008, 8:22 PM
Chuck: You are truly blessed as you have many lifetimes of experience and
knowledge. It is a blessing or something that you are so willing to share all
your vast lifetimes of experience with us Plebes. Please keep your all too
frequent emails flying as I need the entertainment. It is cold and dark here
this time of year. Perhaps after you invent cold fusion that will be
eliminated.
Don't like it do you? Neither did the person you were rude to. You should
apologize.
Bob
Toronto
M1B3G8
--- On Fri, 12/26/08, Chuck and Susan sea_trek_2000@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Chuck and Susan sea_trek_2000@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: T&T: Rescue of Sick Crew menber in Carribean by Coral
Princess
To: "Trawler and Trawlering" trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Received: Friday, December 26,
2008, 7:33 PM
As I said if you have never been there you just don't know. You luff the
sails when you want to slow the boat down and tighten sheets when you need to
get moving again. If the rescue craft says slow down, you let the sails flog.
I
have to ask how often you have sailed in those conditions and how many
rescues
have you been involved in? We have sailed in those conditions so I can speak
first hand. We have been involved in rescues in adverse conditions and can
speak
first hand. As for being out in that weather, have you never left on a great
forecast and have the weather slam shut on you? If you have never had that
experience then you have never done any offshore cruising. We have tens of
thousands of miles under our keel in every imaginable conditions. It is
wonderful how folks can sit at a computer and criticize. Unless you have been
there and done that you have no idea what needs to be done
in
those
circumstances. I guess my question to you is, are you
or have you ever been in those circumstances personally?
Chuck
To follow our adventures, go to