Thank you >> >> >>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Chris wrote: >>> >>> I am looking to purchase OPTION 10 slide in board for the Datron 4708 >>> Multifunction Calibrator. If anybody has a parted out unit and can sell me >>> just the option 10 board i would appreciate it dearly! Thank you for >>> considering!

My Top 10 birds to see in the US: Ivory Gull Ross' Gull Island Scrub Jay Greater Sage-grouse Greater Prairie Chicken Gunnison Sage-grouse Mountain Plover Xantus's Hummingbird Steller's Sea Eagle MacKay's Bunting I know where I need to go! Oh yes, and a great view of a Dovekie.

>From Alex Burdo: 10/5/14 - Fairfield, Pine Creek -- 1 AMERICAN KESTREL, 2 MARSH WREN, 3 NELSON'S SPARROW, 2 Field Sparrow. Fairfield, Metro Conservation Area -- 1 AMERICAN KESTREL, 1 WHITE-CROWNED SPARROW, 1 American Wigeon, 12 Savannah Sparrow.

>From Frank Mantlik, with Sunrise Birding group, 10/13 New Haven, Lighthouse Point - 49 species were found during our morning walk, including Red-throated Loon, 20 Laughing Gulls, 6 Yellow-bellied Sapsuckers, Merlin, Peregrine Falcon, 130 Tree Swallows, 100 Cedar Waxwings, Blackpoll Warbler, 2 White-crowned Sparrows, 9 Purple Finches, and a possible Northern

Due to Covid, birders are not welcome. Jacques Jacques Bouvier

Bryant. I cannot see anything on your extensive list of items to be watched and monitored while underway, that would somehow be precluded or compromised by using a computer to tend to primary navigation and pilotage. Are you suggesting that the installation of a computer system / GPS and Autopilot would render the bridge watch immediately dumb and blind? All of your points are well founded but using a computer is no different from using a plotter/GPS combo, just a little safer, more flexible and more user friendly. Our experience indicates that using a computer to do the primary navigation and pilotage GREATLY increases the pilots ability to do all the other things you have listed. It certainly extends the enjoyment of cruising by greatly decreasing the workload and stress on the pilot and thereby increasing the ability to tend to the other stuff you listed. It's hard to see how GPS data failure could be missed with a modern nav program. The GPS icon blinks bright red, the computer starts an audible alarm sequence, you'd have to be asleep to miss it. There is no way that you would "trust you life" to a computer underway. I don't think anyone in their right mind would take a nap and let the computer steer. But it's a joy not to have to constantly attend to the compass heading steering issues but rather just monitor the systems. Joe & Debbie Engel Marine Computer Service, Inc. MV "Freda Fly" 40' Tollycraft Tri-Cabin Portland, OR > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob & Debbie Huddleston [SMTP:huddlestonb_d@email.msn.com] > Sent: Monday, April 13, 1998 7:15 AM > To: trawler-world-list@samurai.com > Subject: Re: Computers & What Works? > > Braynt . Thank you for speaking out. I was beginning to think I was > alone > out here. > -----Original Message----- > From: Bryant Vann > To: trawler-world-list@samurai.com > Date: Monday, April 13, 1998 5:33 AM > Subject: Re: Computers & What Works? > > > >>navigation software to tie to our GPS and autopilot. > > > >Hmm. I meant to comment on the autopilot "tie-in" in my previous > post. Having the capability to do this might be interesting (even > useful in an emergency perhaps), BUT, as I have heard several others > on the list comment, it may not be a great idea to use routinely. It > could easily give you a false sense of security and tempt one to tend > to "other matters" underway. Maybe I'm just an old-fashioned nervous > nellie, but I want the bridge watch to stay VERY busy -- checking the > operation of ALL the pieces, constantly monitoring the boat's state > and verifying EVERY course change -- making sure the GPS is locked on, > comparing the GPS with the LORAN, making sure the old-fashioned > magnetic compass agrees with the heading the AP is set on, scanning > the horizon visually for other vessels, looking for large floating > objects (like those containers from the container ships), watching for > rogue waves (and "naturists" on other boats), checking the radar > screen for other vessels, taking frequent bearings on other nearby > vessels to insure safe distances at CPA, comparing the depth sounder > readings with the chart, checking the engine instruments, comparing > the "little boat" on the computer screen with the course line between > the waypoints, keeping a position plot on REAL charts in case all the > electronics "disappear," comparing what the chart "looks like" to what > the real world outside "looks like" to make sure there are no waypoint > input errors, checking the LORAN SOG with the expected SOG and > accounting for any differences, making the periodic engine room > inspections, counting noses on board from time to time to make sure > the crew is accounted for (and, if you're running a US Navy ship, > making sure the crew is fully clothed on deck!), listening for alarms > of all kinds -- shallow water, engine temperature, oil pressure, bilge > pump operation, waypoint alerts, GPS/LORAN "lost-lock" signals... > > > >Speaking of theat last one, ECS software can have a "neat" feature of > going into DR mode if the GPS stops sending data to it. That seems > like a good safety feature if one has the computer seding steering > commands to the AP, BUT if that change were to persist and go > unnoticed, disaster can result. A big cruise ship (wasn't it one of > the Queens?) went aground somewhere around Cape Cod a few years ago > when this very thing happened. Very embarrassing, to say the least. > Tahnk you very much, but I think I'll stick with having an alert watch > passing course changes to the AP and then watching it like a hawk to > be SURE all is well. I LOVE computers, but the idea of trusting my > life to just one (or, worse yet, several in series) without watching > it closely doesn't appeal. > > > Just some more food for thought... > > > >- Bryant

Message text written by INTERNET:trawler-world-list@samurai.com Sender: owner-trawler-world-list@samurai.com Hello Deborah C BMFBI, but, a drogue on a trawler (even that very good Galerider) has limited use. Probably good for running inlets only. You are better, far better, off with a sea anchor (one should be on every boat). As for polypro line, I would recommend against having any of it on your boat at all. It has an aging and UV problem that makes it treacherous. Earl

Big Question. Are you living aboard? If not, personal prop. ins. is usually a mix of boat and homeowner's ins. I see no reason why you should not have a tremendous selection of insurers to choose from. The trick is finding one that will and can stand behind a claim. State Farm has an agreed upon policy for liveaboars and Allstate offfers good terms for non-liveaboards. Neither is good if you are leaving the U.S.A. There are a lot of agreed upon value insurers in the marine industry. Robert & Deborah Huddleston Owners of Krogen 39 #2 909 Marina Village Pkwy #160 "The Deborah C." Alameda, Ca. 94501 AB6NI KC6SKY HuddlestonB_D@msn.com -----Original Message----- From: Mary Ann Chapman To: trawler-world-list@samurai.com Date: Wednesday, July 15, 1998 7:45 PM Subject: Personal Property Insurance >I'm still trying to find a legitimate solution to the issue of adequate >insurance on personal property aboard the boat, other than renting my >sister's storage room and getting tenant's insurance. Has anyone solved >this problem? Since we were brand new boat owners with a 48' boat, we >didn't have a lot of selection in insurors for the boat itself. > >Mary Ann

Well it seems the consensus is to haul or find a place away from the docks as the hurricane approaches - but we have not heard from Al and the insurance sector. What is the insurance companies' take on this? Do the companies that you represent have a "suggested action" on this one? Any decision that we make is based on our experience and assessment and may result in some damage. So our choice can be "second guessed". What is the standard advice from the underwriters? Bob SANO KK42

Bob, Sorry for delayed reply. I've been thinking about your comments and doing some more research. >I had the Marlow 12 stand plait line on the cal 46. Thanks for all the negatives on the 4-strand chain splice. I just sent an inquiry to Brion Toss (via Spartalk forum at briontoss.com - nifty website). I asked if there was any alternative to the 4-strand splice for plait or braid. My research says no, but thought I would ask. Right now it looks like one has to use 3-strand if one wants a high strength chain splice. I agree with your comments re high quality nylon, e.g. NE rope. My primary interest in plaits was more elasticity than 3-strand (as claimed by Yale for their "Brait"). Yale only goes up to 5/8", whereas we need 3/4. I've found several plaits, but all are less elastic than 3-strand. The other attraction of plait or braid (like Mega Braid, of which John Neal and Evans Starzinger are proponents), is easy handling, even when rope is aged. We're about to order a pair of Lofrans Progress II verticals with combo chain wheels for 3/8HT and 3/4 nylon. I've designed a ground tackle stowage scheme which I hope will auto-store, auto-deploy both chain and rope without snaggles. For the main rode of 150-ft HT, 250-ft nylon, the locker is divided by a swinging gate/roller into two deep/narrow spaces. The gate is directly under the hawsepipe. I think I will have to prototype this to determine whether it really works. For the para- and storm-anchor rode of 50-ft HT, 600-ft nylon, on it's own vertical, the locker is conventional. In this case, the braid or plait would most likely be more successful for auto stow/deploy. But I'm not sure it's a big deal as we can carefully flake the rode when stowing. What's important is that it deploy with 0% snaggles. Which will probably work fine with 3-strand, at least when relatively new. I consider ground tackle systems to be nearly the most important on the boat. It's frustrating that we haven't found a scheme that looks like the real answer. Even if we found the perfect answer for safe handling of the long rode, we still have the problem of a reliable connection to the bridle arms. >I believe Brian Toss's new book has excellent >pictures. Yes, pg 90. >I do not know if Earl Heinz's has some. Yep, pg 131. BTW, here are a couple of ideas for high strength shackle-type rope/chain connections. Neither of these seems to be well-known nor readily available: a) Maillon Rapide stainless quicklinks (French). Evans Starzinger used the 12mm links with 3/8-inch chain on his circumnavigation on "Sylk". I found them in Taihiti - the only US source I know of is JSI. b) Crosby Lok-A-Loy. The 10mm link fits Acco G40 3/8HT and is stronger than the chain, with WLL of 7100 lbs, ultimate of 28400 lbs. The Casanovas used these for their para-anchor tether. These also look "friendlier" than shackles, but of course won't go thru hawse-pipe nor chain wheel. Cheers, Steve ----------------- Stephen C. Darden Adagio Marine Ltd.