are less flexiable and have to be put in sheaths or brought directly back rather than rolled up to let air in. Bob Austin

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nicks etc. I had been looking around to have the paint job done by different yards. Quotes ranged from $12k - $22k for spray jobs. I did find one guy who has some sort of AGREEMENT with a yard that lets him spray boats in a non approved scenario, i.e. non-negative pressure paint booth. His quote was around $4k if I did all the prep. I have done alot of painting in the commercial construction trade - alot of spraying with 1 part paints, and alot of rolling with 1 and 2 part paints. The spraying of these 2-part polyurethanes is tricky, as the atomized particulates and solvents are extremely toxic, hence the requirement for constant neg. pressure in the booth as well as the applicator's hood, so you end up paying extra for the overhead of an approved paint shop. I was a bit skeptical of some of the claims concerning Roll and Tip applications. You read/hear testimonies of how a well done roll and tip job has a deeper luster than a sprayed job. During last years cruise we docked next to a 32' Sundowner tug that had recently been roll and tipped in the water no less - and it really looked great. So the reality is that many of these products are very user friendly, so long as you follow all the directions to the letter - this includes temp and humidity requirements. Also, if the wind is blowing you will have dust bumps sticking to your new paint, so it might make sense to drape the boat with tarps in that case. I had never used the 'roll and tip' method until this time. I am now a fan. We had a nice window of good weather and low wind and I painted the boat right in the open yard. I think it came out great. Had so many walk by's and compliments, that I could have sold a years worth of product right there in the yard if I were a distributor. The prep went much faster than I anticipated it would. Also, I thought I would need to use the 'high build' primer, but found I was able to sand/fair the old coating fair quite easily, then used the regular primer - 2 coats. I used Sterling/Detco 2-part. Rolled and tipped with one helper(the admiral). It took about 2 hours to do a coat once around. The topcoat goes on like a dream, I used 3 coats as I had enough paint in the 'kit' to easily make 3 passes. After the first coat the finish was spectacular, after the 3rd it is unbelievable. Having used lots of different coatings over the years I can say 2 things about this product: 1. It is the most expensive paint system I have bought. 2. It is the smoothest, nicest finished product I have applied. So it is worth it & if I get another 10 years out of this coating, I will be more than satisfied. by the way, total price to do approx. 400 square feet of surface including rollers, brushes and tape was around $600.00. - With the savings I now can afford to fill up the fuel tanks. here is a great primer on roll and tipping with the product: http://www.boatbuildercentral.com/help/sterling_roll_tip.htm here is a link to the mfg: http://www.detcomarine.com/sltopcoat.htm no affiliation with Sterling - just a very pleased customer I did take some before and after pics if anyone is interested. Brian Shanafelt Isobel K. Seattle, WA 37' Custom Pilothouse

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